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I think that few reading this zine would disagree with that characterization. However, what is important to acknowledge is that not all, not even most police officers, are like this, in fact there are some, albeit too few, that maintain a high degree of professionalism, treat everyone with respect, and honestly do care about you - yes even YOU. The incident that Rev. Makin de- scribes is an outrage to the latter category of police officers. I would encourage Rev. Makin and everyone else who has an encounter with the police in which they think that they were treated inappropriately, to file a complaint with the Internal Affairs Division of the Police Department. Contrary to popular belief, in most modern agencies including Boston such a complaint will not fall on deaf ears. The incident will be investigated, the officers involved will be questioned, and if sustained, disciplinary action will be taken against them. Even if the officers are exonerated, having gone through the internal Affairs pro- cess will likely deter the officers from acting as carelessly in the future. If the issue is still not resolved to your satisfaction, by all means contact City Hall, the ACLU, the media, whatever it lawfully takes to satisfy you. To a truly caring and hard working cop, this will mean a lot, and inspire them to continue their ways. We all deserve to be treated as human beings first, beyond our chosen profession or subcultural affiliations. Rick rosberg lynx. Secondly, it is naive to think that police review commissions or police internal investigation units will somehow lead to justice in any given case. In fact, quite the opposite is tme— generally speaking, as we have seen with countless high profile police abuse cases in the last few years, the cops generally walk or at worst are given a slap on the hand. It is quite rare when severe actions are taken by committees or juries against police abuse. Tim Hey guys, I just wanted to drop this note in response to the Those Unknown interview in the December issue. I thought the inter- view was great and I think Bill and the guys and Araena have a lot of valuable things to say. I'm glad they had a chance to step up to the mic through your mag. My point of interest is the Boston show that is mentioned on the third page of the interview. I got the impression that they had been screwed around before. Finally, I was able to con- vince them to come. The show was great! I have to say, Those Unknown stole the show. The kids have been begging me to get them up here again ever since May 3rd. This is blown way out of proportion. There was one clown who was running his mouth outside the club and was quickly silenced without ever confronting the band with his igno- rance. They had a better reaction than any band I have ever seen in Boston. But not mentioned in the interview was the other billing that read: This was billed on all of the 2, fliers I distributed. While this whole issue only covered two short questions in the interview I felt l had to write for several reasons. The first is that I booked Those Unknown for a follow up show on July 12th that they canceled shortly before the date. While we sadly have just lost the Rat, we have probably the best scene in the country. Hell, the Ducky Boys just head- lined a show to kids on November 8 and Showcase Showdown played to even more than that the week before. No band should have any doubts about penciling in Boston as the most important date on their tour. Let me note that Anti-Flag, the Unseen, and the Pinkerton Thugs — all bands of a left-of-the- mark leaning— are some of the most popular draws here. At any rate, let me thank you again for the Those Unknown interview. Bill or Araena, get in touch! You have my number or get it through GMM. I own a small record shop in Or- lando, Florida that puts on live shows from time to time. They have a decent space but their landlord wants a grand a month. Some months ago they were scheduled to play at my record shop. Unfortu- nately prior to their set someone stood on my sink all the bands sign the bathroom and knocked it out of the wall resulting in a flooded store. Fortunately I only have ugly astro turf for carpet so nothing got ruined. As it turned out, the person that stood on the sink was traveling with Operation Cliff Clavin. I am sure that night ' was less than friendly because I had a busted pipe flooding the store and we could not get the water turned off. The reason I am writing this letter is because Operation Cliff Clavin, even though they were on tour, did not ask for a dime in payment that night. Nobody made money that night but by not taking any money Operation Cliff Clavin lost money. In some regards it was the only decent thing for them to do since they were indirectly responsible for the damage — but; in other senses, they were on the road and needed money also. Mills Ave Orlando, Florida http: This established a social security blanket to finance unemployment insurance. The Wagner Act did help establish a National Labor Relations Board which allowed collective bargaining rights of employees. Only after the passage of the Wagner Act were changes actually achieved by the unions. The NRA was suppose to impose certain indus- trial codes to promote honest business. Companies that supported the NRA were to honor a minimum wage, allow labor unions and collective bargaining, 8 hour work day, provide work benefits and the sort. As Americans, in the Depression, it was patriotic to support products and shops with the NRA logo, a blue eagle. Supporting the NRA supported your friends, the economy, the government, America and yourself and family. The Supreme Court eventually declared this act unconstitutional. These changes in industrial workplaces were not a result of labor unions kicking ass, but a result of the Great Depression which was the result of frivolous spending, resentment, and war. The US government, under Presi- dent Roosevelt, saw that there was a need to change the present system. People were starving in the streets during the depression. There was an unprecedented 15 to 17 million people unemployed with no hope for a future. Changes in the system were required to give hope to people during the time to survive and a hope that their children would survive and prosper. Another topic is the UPS strike. I have a friend that works for UPS and participated in the famed strike that Nick looks so highly upon. My friend continuously com- plains that they still have not received their raise. Now that to me does not sound like sticking it to the man. They usually irritate me, but I think that this is actually a good thing. He provokes a great deal of thought and response of the readers of MRR. Thank you for your time. Sincerely yours, Matt 0. I am looking for Spanish and French penpals to communicate in French and Spanish. Write for a free copy. Roosevelt took the steps that he mmmu felt would preserve capi- talism, even if it was dis- agreeable to the short term interests of the rul- ing class. Plus , whatever gains labor made even after said legislation was passed were usually very roughly earned. Also , it is no coinci- dence that the overall standard of living for regular working people has declined parallel to the decline of power of organized labor over the last 30 years. By the way, I asked the UPS driver who delivers to where I work about the delay in receiving benefits from the strike settlement and he said it has to do with company shenanigans and some sort of dispute with the Pennsylva- nia locals , and he does not hold the union responsible for that at all. Tim MattO. Back to the history books for you. By the time FDR was elected in during the Great Depression there were strong Communist-led un- employed movements in many cities as well as a growing working class militancy. Only the NRA covered industrial policy- allowing capital to monopolistically limit production and fix prices in exchange for setting minimum hours and pay, legalizing collective bargaining, etc. The year witnessed widespread working class un- rest expressed in mass strikes, much of it eventually directed toward rank-and file labor union organizing, in part because the government was unable to enforce the NRA. Longshoremen tied up shipping on the West Coast in spring and summer of with a rank-and-file insurrec- tion, catalyzing the San Francisco general strike from July 16 through 19, after police killed 3 workers and wounded 1 15 others. The general strike called out some , workers and paralyzed the city. The powers-that - be assembled special police and 4, National Guard to quell the general strike, forcing the longshore- men to settle. A crowd of 10, angry striking workers held 1, strikebreakers in the Toledo, Ohio Auto-Lite parts plant in May until machine gun toting National Guard broke their blockade, killing 2 and wounding The Teamsters under Trotskyist leadership won three succes- sive, bloody stikes in Minneapolis in summer Tex- tile workers went out on an East Coast general strike as well in 1 ; , in the south and , nationwide by September In all, a million and half workers struck in different industries in in what amounted to a year of violent class warfare. The bourgeois press was clear as to what they thought about the rebellious workers of The WPA which I employed people in public works, the passage of the Wagner I Act guaranteeing workers union recognition and collective [ bargaining, the creation of the NLRB to arbitrate disputes l between workers and owners, the establishment of unem - 1 ployment insurance and social security all occurred in Working class militancy produced l government reforms on paper, which the workers then had to fight for on the job and in their communities, sometimes with I unions and other times without. And while American capital might not I have minded a little fascism, FDR sought to preserve a more - 1 or-less democratic corporate capitalism in recovering from I the Depression, against the perceived extremes of social - 1 ism, fascism and leveling populism. Zieger, Strike! We would like to I extend special thanks to Jen and to Mike who did the I interview and instigated it for their patience because, we I were hard to pin down for the interview as no one knows our I TRUE identities! The purpose of this letter is to clarify certain points I we have tried to make in the past year. It is also to take responsibility for, in the past, promoting certain ideologies that we no longer believe are solutions to the issues that we have tried to raise. The two members of the band that were heavily I involved with the Uhuru movement are no longer working I with that particular organization. It is also important to I point out that this was never the only source of knowledge or I analyses about these issues that we derived our ideas from I as people or a band we added lot of our own ideas and had I our own interpretations of their analyses, which the move- 1 ment was always quick to point out. There is really no need to go into depth at this point I about the criticisms we have of the Uhuru movement, and in fact, there is good reason not to in this public forum. Basically we do not want our criticisms of this organization or any others to be used as an excuse and legitimization for complacency or apathetic laziness which in many cases it already has become. Western culture, especially in the U. S, has the tendency to try to divide our lives into 57 separate parts that do not have to be consis- tent with one another. Our society has taken spirituality or belief in God and perverted it, turned it into a hobby pastime, and justification for oppression. This is true of especially western Christianity. Which is important to specify, because we are not advocating going back to church with your mom unless of course you have the intention of confronting them on true ethics and principles of the creator. We are also not advocating involvement in spiritual groups who do not do anything to change or impact society around them. This has never been the true purpose of spiritu- ality, as defined by any of the messengers of god. Does this mean that these movements have a bad analyses of politics and economics? Does it mean they have the solutions to the problems analyzed well? Are the problems they point out the only contributions to the problems that plague humanity, NOOOoooo! These ide- 1 ologiesattemptto appeal I to the material side of human beings to moti- vate them to change so- 1 ciety. Their ideology is I inherently flawed because truth, right and wrong are very real forces which are immaterial and impossible to physi- 1 cally objectively prove? YET we all will concede there is I right and wrong ie. Sorry, it is only going to get worse better from I here on out. Apathy seems to be settling in more and more I everyday in this community and the society around us. I Mainly because we get jaded trying to follow paths that we I are led to believe will lead us to a more JUST society and I true fulfillment. Led by ideologies and methods that are I limited, incomplete, and ineffective, and so, too many get I burnt out, accepting the lie that there is no hope, make I what you can out of it. Then we wonder what happened when nothing seems to I have changed. Because the fundamental ideologies and [ presumptions about what is wrong is limited, because it I comes from subjective limited philosophers and political ideologies. And so the structures and systems that per- petuate the injustices of torture, starvation and ecocide are I never shaken but left in place to continue wreaking havoc I on our world, and all its life. Americans are I bought off, be it beer and soap operas, or punk rock and I Nintendo, porno, sex - kept comfortable and distracted. Humanity is divided by its distraction and attach- ments to the false idols it resurrects to fill the void created I by straying so far from the universal source of justice, I equality, love, true freedom, THAT is ALLAH. The point of de- 1 tachment from these distractions is so we are not blinded I from acting upon what is JUST, opposed to allowing our attachment to these various distractions and our subjec- tive physical desires for pleasure and comfort dictate our I actions. It can be applied to all people who wish to to put I loyalty to justice, equality and love before attachment to I race gender, nationality or culture Dan XracetraitorX dbinaei shrike. Fuck all that intellectualism and rhetoric— just spell out where the bullshit lies, try to steer a path for yourselves and your friends where you can maintain your integrity, stay somewhat sane, and still be able to give to the greater good both materially, spiritually, and through I example. Good lucki! My concern for the activity of the punk commu- nity, however, has not. Over the past few years, I have been constantly I amazed and impressed by the number of punks who have I entered the field of education. I think my high school experi- I ence would have been a lot different if I had had even one I teacher who I could have even remotely related to. Not so, 1 unfortunately; the teachers made sure that the dividing line I between them and the students was indelibly drawn. No ] human connection between the two sides was ever made. Oh yeah, if you guys know of any punk I librarians lurking about? So much for postal efficiency I'm in a position to see the war zone that is record distribution from the trenches on both sides of the line. First off, lefs be precise. There are not "thousands" I of distributors out there selling wholesale punk rock records I to record stores, as is lightheartedly alluded in the article, but 1 rather a couple dozen at most. Prove it for yourself: Now try listing every label making punk records I mentioned in any ad or review. I Two months later there will be 50 new labels starling up. The I fact is that a vast, amorphous, and constantly fluctuating I corps of labels must deal with a relatively few distributors. That is the organizational task and its form should deter- mine the solution. They are awesome. They are terrific. They are fabulous. That can be a pain What are you gonna do, blackball fucking everybody?!?! Of course not! There are good distributors and there are bad distributors. The key is to steer labels away from the bad guys and towards the good guys. Please note: But there are distributors out there who will intentionally try to fuck labels over, it is a function of the way they do business. Posting a message on a site is a tot less work than sending and carbon copying to thirty different people at least one of whom changes their email address every other week, it seems! The bottom line is this: The bad apples will always remain bad apples. The correct approach should be to identify and publicize who the bad apples are so that they can be avoided. Hell, my very worst experience with a distributor was with one who required a written contract. A written contract with a nogoodnik is worth less than a verbal agreement with a good guy. Thafs a fact. The key is to avoid the shitbags and to help other people avoid the shitbags. It is also worthwhile to spur the basically good people to do the right thing when they fuck up. It is the boxes of unsold-but-paid-for records sitting in the warehouse that tie up the cash-flow of your average distributor and make it literally impossible for them to pay their bills on time. Forcing distributors to buy more stuff up front on non-returnable terms would make their cash-flow situation worse and cause them to pay their bills slower and to fur- ther act in various ways not favorable to the in- terests of little labels. Distributors faced with buying goods up front would definitely take fewer chances on new bands and new labels. You'd better have big name releases or a long track record, Mr. An EP with an unknown band? Forget it! Nothing but risk, a big possible downside only fractionally offset by a relatively small possible upside. Distributors who buy up front also tend to systematically underestimate their potential sales. If they wind up missing 20 sales in the process because they estimated demand too low, that's not a big problem to them. Getting stuck with 20 unsold and unsellable CDs— now that's a big problem to them. A distributor that has a clause allowing unsold goods to be returned will tend to cover the full potential demand— possibly returning some unsold stuff, possibly keeping everything, depending on the real demand for the item. Distributors who buy things up front also tend to overemphasize new releases at the expense of back catalog. This makes sense if you give it some thought. As a distributor, I work on consignment terms with my primary labels. Well, as a label, I want to sell back catalog. No, more than that, I need to sell back catalog. Well, there are a lot of words here. Thanks for reading along. Tim Davenport T. It is an insult to the band and to you. I assure you that, with the time and care we put into it, it will be a worthy representation and celebra- tion of the band. Needless to say, C. The music was, and still is, very precious to me. For five years of my life, Christ On Parade was my voice. It was how I expressed my feelings and shared my ideas. It was how I worked through my conflicts and dilemmas, and how I communicated my struggles and revelations. It was the bridge I built between my world and the world around me. It was my life and it was my family. This is extremely disrespectful and you have deeply, deeply offended me. I want you to know that I take this very seriously and very personally. Who are you? Why would you do this? But if you do care and you understand what Christ On Parade was about, then this is especially sad, because what you have done goes against everything our band and our music stands for. In reality, there are those who share an alternative vision of the world, and those who desperately need to be woken up to new ideas. When we start begging and stealing from one another, disrespecting each other and ripping each other off is when we have truly become that which we hate. Lastly, I would like to address the people who distribute punk bootlegs. The difference between punk mu- sic and mainstream music is that punk comes from a real place inside people and has the power to transform social reality, and mainstream music does not. This is why bootleg- ging a punk band is entirely different from bootlegging a commercially successful rock band. Bootlegging a punk band is much more damaging and much more detrimental. Allow me to explain why this is so: The ideas exchanged between people through punk music and punk culture empower us both individually and collectively. For punks, these ideas are what makes us strong. You are taking away their right to represent them- selves, as well as , their right not to. Worst of ail, you are commodifying and devaluing their ideas. In the power of these ideas, remember, lies the strength of punk. Therefore, by bootlegging punk bands, you are essentially destroying punk and everything it represents. People who distribute these bootlegs are assisting with this downfall. Is this making sense to anybody? Something I held as sacred has been violated. Hi, this is Jo from Mind Matter. Noah has pretty much expressed how I feel about bootlegging punk what is up with that? It was not about the money- we felt that they should be heard. These records and this band were, on many different levels, a huge part of all our lives back in 1 You could call C. 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I'm tired of hav- ing the 'rhea. Too bad! I also shivered a lot. It was fucking freezing. I ordered a Subway Trio. Ham, Turkey, roast beef. It was cheap. I also picked up a bag of Baked Lays and a bottle of Diet Pepsi. Road nectar of the Gods. I told her that we were full of that, thank you. We are try- ing to raise money for a dying child's last wish! I could barely afford the sub. Parked in the lot behind the place. I didn't have the keys, so I figured I'd stand around, and wait for Evan and Adam. Who did have them. Strangers talking to me when I don't get enough sleep is almost as bad as people throwing fish at me. He was wearing a warm jacket, jeans, boots, and looked sort of friendly. I hate friendly people at truck stops. Never know when they are gonna kill you. I don't know why, but I said I didn't mind. I guess I was just bored while waiting for Evan and Adam to get their stuff. Punk Rock. I had spent too much time in California with them F. The city? I just want to ask you some simple questions. Because if you are, I already told them inside that I'm out of dough. I'm a Jew. You people scare me. What if you're right and I am going to hell? I haven't packed. Bob then reached into his pocket and pulled out a wallet. He flipped it open and showed me a silver and blue badge. It said "Pennsylvania D. Suddenly he was joined by another friend. He showed me his D. It was purty. I don't know why. Probably because ever since I'd seen that D. My stomach was beginning to rumble. Just say No! The guys showed Evan and Adam their badges. Their faces went white. I just shrugged my shoulders, and they fconwtews both told Bob that they lived in New York, and gave him their Driver's License numbers. I'm not meaning to be pushy, but we have a gig to get to, and we're tired. Uh- huh. We'd like to know if we can have a dog just run around the outside of your van and see if he smells anything. None of us did drugs. He kind of scowled and told me that that was our choice. But he wouldn't tell us what would happen if we said no. I asked Adam and Evan if it was okay that a dog run around the van. They both thought it would be okay, and besides, we knew we didn't have a choice. Suddenly Bob whistles loudly, and a cop car that says "K-9 Unit" pulls up out of fucking no-where. Out of it comes an older, mean cop, in a D. If I want him to, he'll attack, and keep biting you until I tell him to stop. Fucking lunatic. Has to be, with a partner who pisses on three legs. The mean cop with the D. We are not really worried. None of us do drugs. We kinda hoped no one who was in the damn thing left any- thing. If it's more, than, well, Pennsylvania has very good drug laws on the side of the defendant. I did warn everyone never to carry any- thing. The dog ran around the van, sniffing, and found nothing. Maybe the dog's nose is just not ready. I know about you type of people. I halfway expected a camera crew to come out of hiding and tell us we were on "Cops". This was so stupid. The mean cop then gave the dog a rag. The dog bit it and started barking. Then tried to tear up the rag. The dog ran around our van again, then started to hop up and down on the passenger side door. Then it started scratching and bark- ing. Evan, Adam, and I just looked at the D. The dog smells drugs, so we believe you are carrying something. Of course you can say 'no'. The dog continued to bark and scratch up the van. Adam started to bitch about the paint job. The dog is never wrong! He had an eat-shit grin on his face. There was no phone around. That's when I pulled out my cellular. Punk rock. I didn't smile at the dog. He'd bite my mouth off. Adam dialed the phone and got his dad on the line. He explained to him our situation. They talked for quite a while. At two dollars a minute. Then they gave it a rag, and it went nuts! Between a lawyer and his client. Adam continued talking to his Dad, and the cops and dog got more and more antsy. That equipment is fucking heavy. You ever lifted a Marshall? He was playing some sort of bullshit game. Finally Bob gets on the phone and talks to Adam's dad for like fifteen minutes. I eat my sub. I'm hungry. Evan is able to get his coat out of the van after the jacket is searched. He's cold. Adam just stands around. Finally Bob gives Adam back his dad. Adam talks for a few seconds, then says, "Okay, I'll call you back," and hangs up. We gotta let them search the van. He smiles. I look at the other cop. I look at the dog's part- ner. He looks like he's about to come. We are a straight edge band. Like Minor Threat. Or Uniform Choice. Just say no! Adam unlocks the thing, and Bob pulls out our suitcases. The dogs sniffs those first. We believe there is some- thing in the front, so we won't search the back," explains Bob. I hate animals in the van. They smell it up. Then I have to take more showers. He runs into the van and eats my bag of potato chips, that's what he does. The dog barks like crazy, then starts to scratch at the ashtray. The cops take apart the ashtray of the van and look at and in it. The dog is never wrong. And you just wasted over an hour of our time. We have a gig to get to. In Clearfield. We are playing an old prison. Now a club. For the kids. But he's not. You should feed him more. He probably doesn't want to be sued. We want stickers. The dog barks in agreement. Of your band! What are you called again? It's full of stickers. From The Go-Go Rays. From Erie. Who gave them to us the night before. I'll put them on my car. In Prison! As we make our way toward the next gig Evan clears his throat, then speaks. It's Burger King. E mail me at furygeo aol. Evan at parkluck aol. Or you can mail us at P. Got lots of great records this month, and they include bands such as Toilet Boys, John Cougar Concentration Camp who rock my world. Teen Idols Ben Weasel Approved! Whatta month! I hear they are recording a single now. Been touring a lot lately. Thanks to everyone who has helped us out, and thanks Cleveland. What a show. In yellow tights. Girls, he has a huge bulge. I'm not kidding. P also rocked that night, and it was amazing to see Todd puke through his nose! Yeah Baby! And The Beatnick Termites! Those guys are the coolest! Nicest guys I've met in the midwest! Support them, they rule! When we did "Sonic Reduc- er", we stripped naked. Best line of the night came from Matt Army. Punk Rock! With the big noise in mainstream pub- lications about "fanzine revolution" a few years ago, I'm surprised the book deals didn't come sooner. I was hoping Aaron Cometbus would end up publishing a book before the millennium he did have a story excerpted for a photo book called Unheard Music. He's done enough interviews and in-depth stories on the band, so it would only come naturally. I'm sure Chris from Slug and Lettuce could publish an encyclopedia set of books from her photographs alone. Then came the books about fanzines by V. I'm hoping as people's zines begin grow that more people will take the DIY initiative and put together their own books. After col- lecting zines for over 10 years, I get excited at the idea of compiling a "best of" from my favorite zines. I have no idea how to set up perfect binding which is flat, book style spine, versus the folded and stapled spine that nearly every zine uses , printing resources, and most im- portantly, distribution. Incommunicado Press is a San Diego book publisher that has printed books by Nicole Panter, Jimmy Jazz and Bill Brent, along with music resource guides such as Releasing an Independent Record and Book Your Own Tour neither books apply much to the punk scene since most punk resources have been well-documented or can easily found through the usual punk chan- nels. Gary Hustwit, the owner of Incommunicado Press, told me a book distribution is well-organized. This leads me to believe that you don't have the resources to establish a publishing com- pany or the ability to smooth talk a distribu- tor into picking up your book, you're gonna be shit out of luck on the distribution side of things. I have the feeling book distribution is just as tough as zine distribution. Again, as more people become involved, DIY book publishing can create an alternate to playing the big business game, much as the zine world has done. It's got all the punk rant- ing you need, without the pretension. Phil admits that he doesn't know much about politics, but he gives his personal opin- ions from a working class bent coupled with his life experiences. At the same time the guy seems to like nothing more than to enjoy his favorite bands while getting drunk. One of those bands includes the almighty Venom, which is maybe part of the reason why I dig his zine that and he hates third wave ska. Feel free to write with any zine questions. I'm always looking for stories on Satanism, the occult, Christians gone bad, etc. Please include the name of the publication and the date it appeared in. I have to say I had a really good time. LA is one of those places I've never really envisioned myself. I mean. I've seen it on TV, but I've never really seen myself stand- ing in front of the Chinese theater where all of the hand prints and stars are in the sidewalk, or driving down Rodeo Drive. I guess I never really thought it existed, that it was a creation of TV and existed only in movies and sit corns. I really enjoyed being a tourist, but I did find one thing very disappointing. First, you have to understand that when I was in high school, I went to New York City with my mom and saw the Statue of Liberty for the first time. OK, if you've never seen the Statue of Liberty in person, your image of it comes from movies like Ghostbusters II where the statue comes to life and walks down the streets of the city, dwarfing all of the skyscrapers. And then you see it in real life we saw it from the 50th floor of the World Trade Center and it's fucking tiny! It's on some little island and it looks like it's 3 stories high! So, needless to say, I had built this great American icon up in my head to be something it wasn't, and my trip to LA killed my image of another Amer- ican landmark, the famed "Hollywood" sign. If you've never seen it, I hate to spoil the surprise but I have to tell you that the sign is pretty, well, small. On the drive back I had a pretty inter- esting conversation with this guy Christo- pher - who isn't native to California either. We talked about how we see the scene in California as being different than pretty much every where else either of us have ever lived. One of the big problems which he brought up but I heartily agree is that the scene here is so insular. In some ways, that's good, espe- cially if you're new in town. You can go to punk shows and live in a punk house and work at a job with other punks and go to punk stores. You don't have to interact with the rest of the world if you don't want to. What's good about this is that it's reas- suring and validating. It's encouraging to see punk and punks in other ways than besides in bands. It's good to see some utopian in a sense ideals being carried out. But it's not good because there's more to the world than punks, and unfortunately the punks are a great minority. It's easy to fall into a trap, or a cycle or a rut, where all you see and all you think about is punk rock and your own little world. But you leam from interact- ing with others outside of your culture. Just like, if you're white, you learn from interact- ing with others not like yourself. Like you learn perspective. How much do radical pol- itics matter to the average person? Or, how can you make radical politics matter to the average person? The other thing about punk being insu- lar is that I have always liked that punk is about thinking for yourself and being able to back up and defend all of your values and everything you stand for. About not getting what is in your head from your parents or from text books, but from figuring it out on your own, and reevaluating everything that is handed to you on a plate and through television and the culture you see around you every day. Being challenged on every aspect of what you are, every day. So what?.

Maybe complacency has helped in making MRR appear less interesting. It should not be taken for granted that MRR will always be great It is up to us. Be a part of the scene and not just part of the scenery! Diversity, co-operation not competition, strength. You and I both know that this is not true.

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However, I can shout myself hoarse about how the content of MRR relies on what comes in the mail to us, and still not get a single thing. I am glad you are making these observations and criticisms, but start making some contributions to the magazine in the form of link and articles and help make it live up to your expectations.

Click and Trev, I think MRR still serves a great function, and, if anything, is somewhat taken for granted because of its bedrock regularity.

But I think our music review section is by far and away the best going for the areas of music that we cover, both in terms of completeness and in generally savvy reviewers. Again, the best selection of columnists of any zine around. I do think that if MRR ceases, this scene will sorely miss a resource that only comes along once a generation at bestone that not only serves its function as an amazing monthly resouce of communication, but one that goes beyond that function to constructive community activism and in putting its money where its mouth is.

Lee never mentioned the Jux a married woman cant resist that serina minami song in his review of the NYC oi! I still feel that the apolitical trend in oi! We have to draw the line.

Peace and Revolution, J. Walker jewalker mail. Rich- ard J. Makin states that a man in plainclothes, who unbeknownst to him was a police Jux a married woman cant resist that serina minami, was pushing a person who was attempting to leave the scene of a disturbance. Makin called this to the attention of a uniformed officer, who instead of responding to the apparent assault, threatened Rev.

Makin with arrest, and further threatened criminal charges when the Rev. Clearly, there are police officers who abuse their power, violate civil liberties, and act in a manner befitting only of belligerent hog-like creatures.

I think that few reading this zine would disagree with that characterization. However, what is important to acknowledge is that not all, not even most police officers, are like this, in fact there are some, albeit too few, that maintain a high degree of professionalism, treat everyone with respect, and honestly do care about you - yes even YOU.

The incident that Rev.

Makin de- scribes is an outrage to the Jux a married woman cant resist that serina minami category of police officers. I would encourage Rev. Makin and everyone else who has an encounter with the police in which they think that they were treated inappropriately, to file a complaint with the Internal Affairs Division of the Police Department.

Contrary to popular belief, in most modern agencies including Boston such a complaint will not fall on deaf ears. The incident will be investigated, the officers involved will be questioned, and if sustained, disciplinary action will be taken against them.

Even if the officers are exonerated, having gone through the internal Affairs pro- cess will likely deter the officers from acting as carelessly in the future. If the issue is still not resolved to your satisfaction, by all means contact City Hall, the ACLU, the media, whatever it lawfully takes to satisfy you. To a truly caring and hard working cop, this will mean a lot, and inspire them to continue their ways.

We all deserve to be treated as human beings first, beyond our chosen profession or subcultural affiliations. Rick rosberg lynx.

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Secondly, it is naive to think that police review commissions or police internal investigation units will somehow lead to justice in any Jux a married woman cant resist that serina minami case.

In fact, quite the opposite is tme— generally speaking, as we have seen with countless high profile police abuse cases in the last https://xadulthub.xyz/finnish/video-2020-04-28.php years, the cops generally walk or at worst are given a slap on the hand. It is quite rare when severe actions are taken by committees or juries against police abuse. Tim Hey guys, I just wanted to drop this note in response to the Those Unknown interview in the December issue.

I thought the inter- view was great and I think Bill and the guys and Araena have a lot of valuable things to say. I'm glad they had a chance to step up to the mic through Jux a married woman cant resist that serina minami mag.

My point of interest is the Boston show that is mentioned on the third page of the interview. I got the impression that they had been screwed around before. Finally, I was able to con- vince them to come. The show was great! I have to say, Those Unknown stole the show. The kids have been begging me to get them up here again ever since May 3rd.

This is blown way out of proportion. There was one clown who was running his mouth outside the club and was quickly silenced without ever confronting the band with his igno- rance. They had a better reaction than any band I have grannie Hard fuck cote seen in Boston.

But not mentioned in the interview was the other billing that read: This was billed on all of the 2, fliers I distributed. While this whole issue only covered two short questions in the interview I felt l had to write for several reasons. The first is that I booked Those Unknown for a follow up show on July 12th that they canceled shortly before the date.

While we sadly have just lost the Rat, we have probably the best scene in the country. Jux a married woman cant resist that serina minami, the Ducky Boys just head- lined a show to kids on November 8 and Showcase Showdown played to even more than that the week before.

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No band should have any doubts about penciling in Boston as the most important date on their tour. Let me note that Anti-Flag, the Unseen, and the Pinkerton Thugs — all bands of a left-of-the- mark leaning— are some of the most popular draws here.

At any rate, let me thank you again for the Those Unknown interview. Bill or Araena, get in touch! You have my number or get it through GMM. I own a small record shop in Or- lando, Florida that puts on live shows from time to time.

They have a decent Jux a married woman cant resist that serina minami but their landlord wants a grand a month.

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Some months ago they were scheduled to play at my record shop. Unfortu- nately prior to their set someone stood on my sink all the bands sign the bathroom and knocked it out of the wall resulting in a flooded store. Fortunately I only have ugly astro turf for carpet so nothing got ruined. As it turned out, the person that stood on the sink was traveling with Operation Cliff Clavin. I continue reading sure that night ' was less than friendly because I had a busted pipe flooding the store and we could Jux a married woman cant resist that serina minami get the water turned off.

The reason I am writing this letter is because Operation Cliff Clavin, even though they were on tour, did not ask for a dime in payment that night. Nobody made money that night but by not taking any money Operation Cliff Clavin lost money. In some regards it was the only decent thing for them to do since they were indirectly responsible for the damage — but; in other senses, they were on the road and needed money also.

Mills Ave Orlando, Florida http: This established a social security blanket to finance unemployment insurance. The Wagner Act did help establish a National Labor Relations Board which allowed collective bargaining rights of employees. Only after the passage of the Wagner Act were changes actually achieved by the unions. The NRA was suppose to impose certain indus- trial codes to promote honest business. Companies that supported the NRA were to honor a minimum wage, allow labor unions and collective bargaining, 8 hour work day, provide work benefits and the sort.

As Americans, in the Depression, it was patriotic to support products and shops with the NRA logo, a blue eagle. Supporting the NRA supported your friends, the economy, the government, America and yourself and family.

The Supreme Court eventually declared this act unconstitutional. These changes in industrial workplaces were not a result of labor unions kicking ass, but a result of the Great Depression which was the result of frivolous spending, resentment, and war.

The US government, under Presi- dent Roosevelt, saw that there was a need to change the present system. People were starving in the streets during the depression. There was an unprecedented 15 to 17 million people unemployed with no hope for a future. Changes in the system were required to give hope Jux a married woman cant resist that serina minami people during the time to survive and a hope that their children would Jux a married woman cant resist that serina minami and prosper.

Another topic is the UPS strike. I have a friend that works for UPS and participated in the famed strike that Nick looks so highly upon.

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My friend continuously com- plains that they still have not received their raise. Now that to me does not sound like sticking it to the man. They usually irritate me, but I think that this is actually a good thing. He provokes a great deal of thought and response of the readers of MRR. Thank you for your time. Sincerely Jux a married woman cant resist that serina minami, Matt 0. I am looking for Spanish and French penpals to communicate in French and Spanish.

Write for a free copy. Roosevelt took the steps that he mmmu felt would preserve capi- talism, even if it was dis- agreeable to the short term interests of the rul- ing class.

Pluswhatever gains labor made even after said legislation was passed were usually very roughly earned. Alsoit is no coinci- dence that the overall standard of living for regular working people has declined parallel to the decline of power of organized labor over the last 30 years.

By the way, I asked the UPS driver who delivers to where I work about the delay in receiving benefits from the strike settlement and he said it has to do with company shenanigans and some sort of dispute with the Pennsylva- Jux a married woman cant resist that serina minami localsand he does not hold the union responsible for that at all.

Tim MattO. Back to the history books for you. By the time FDR was elected in during the Great Depression there were strong Communist-led un- employed movements in many cities as well as a growing working class militancy. Only the NRA covered industrial policy- allowing capital to monopolistically limit production and fix prices in exchange for setting minimum hours and pay, legalizing collective bargaining, etc.

The year witnessed widespread working class this web page rest expressed in mass strikes, much of it eventually directed toward rank-and file labor Jux a married woman cant resist that serina minami organizing, in part because the government was unable to enforce the NRA.

Longshoremen tied up shipping on the West Coast in spring and summer of with a rank-and-file insurrec- tion, catalyzing the San Francisco general strike from July 16 through 19, after police killed 3 workers and wounded 1 15 others. The general strike called out someworkers and paralyzed the city. The powers-that - be assembled special police and 4, National Guard to quell the general strike, forcing the longshore- men to settle.

A crowd of 10, angry striking workers held 1, strikebreakers in the Toledo, Ohio Auto-Lite parts plant in May until machine gun toting National Guard broke their blockade, killing 2 and wounding The Teamsters under Trotskyist leadership won three succes- sive, bloody stikes in Minneapolis in summer Tex- tile workers went out on an East Coast general strike as well in 1 ;in the south andnationwide by September In all, a million and half workers struck in different industries in in what amounted to a year of violent class warfare.

The bourgeois press was clear as to what they thought about the rebellious workers of The WPA which I employed people in public works, the passage of the Wagner I Act guaranteeing workers union recognition and collective [ bargaining, the creation of the NLRB to arbitrate disputes l between workers and owners, the establishment of unem - 1 ployment insurance and social security all occurred in Working class militancy produced l government reforms on paper, which the workers then had to fight for on the job and in their communities, sometimes with I unions and other times without.

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And while American capital might not I have minded a little fascism, FDR sought to preserve a more - 1 or-less democratic corporate capitalism in recovering Jux a married woman cant resist that serina minami I the Depression, against the perceived extremes of social - 1 ism, fascism and leveling populism. Zieger, Strike! We would like to I extend special thanks Jux a married woman cant resist that serina minami Jen and to Mike who did the I interview and instigated it for their patience because, we I were hard to pin down for the interview as no one knows our I TRUE identities!

The purpose of this letter is to clarify certain points I we have tried to make in the past year. It is also to take responsibility for, in the past, promoting certain ideologies that we no longer believe are solutions to the issues that we have tried to raise. The two members of the band that were heavily I involved with the Uhuru movement are no longer working I with that particular organization.

It is also important to I point out that this was never the only source learn more here knowledge or I analyses about these issues that we derived our ideas from I as people or a band we added lot of our own ideas and had I our own interpretations of their analyses, which the move- 1 ment was always quick to point out.

There is really no need to go into depth at Jux a married woman cant resist that serina minami point I about the criticisms we have of the Uhuru movement, and in fact, there is good reason not to in this public forum. Basically we do not want our criticisms of this organization or any others to be used as an excuse and legitimization for complacency or apathetic laziness which in many cases it already has become.

Western culture, especially in the U. S, has the tendency to try to divide our lives into 57 separate parts that do not have to be consis- tent with one another. Our society has taken spirituality or belief in God and perverted it, turned it into a hobby pastime, and justification for oppression. This is true of especially western Christianity.

Which is important to specify, because we are not advocating going back to church with your mom unless of course you have the intention of confronting them on true ethics and principles of the creator. We are also not advocating involvement in spiritual groups who do not do anything to change or impact society around them.

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It is the boxes of unsold-but-paid-for records sitting in the warehouse that tie up the cash-flow of your average distributor and make it literally impossible for them to pay their bills on time. Forcing distributors to buy more stuff up front on non-returnable terms would make their cash-flow situation worse and cause them to pay their bills slower and to fur- ther act in various ways not favorable to the in- terests of little labels. Distributors faced with buying goods up front would definitely take fewer chances on new bands and new labels. You'd better have big name releases or a long track record, Mr. An EP with an unknown band? Forget it! Nothing but risk, a big possible downside only fractionally offset by a relatively small possible upside. Distributors who buy up front also tend to systematically underestimate their potential sales. If they wind up missing 20 sales in the process because they estimated demand too low, that's not a big problem to them. Getting stuck with 20 unsold and unsellable CDs— now that's a big problem to them. A distributor that has a clause allowing unsold goods to be returned will tend to cover the full potential demand— possibly returning some unsold stuff, possibly keeping everything, depending on the real demand for the item. Distributors who buy things up front also tend to overemphasize new releases at the expense of back catalog. This makes sense if you give it some thought. As a distributor, I work on consignment terms with my primary labels. Well, as a label, I want to sell back catalog. No, more than that, I need to sell back catalog. Well, there are a lot of words here. Thanks for reading along. Tim Davenport T. It is an insult to the band and to you. I assure you that, with the time and care we put into it, it will be a worthy representation and celebra- tion of the band. Needless to say, C. The music was, and still is, very precious to me. For five years of my life, Christ On Parade was my voice. It was how I expressed my feelings and shared my ideas. It was how I worked through my conflicts and dilemmas, and how I communicated my struggles and revelations. It was the bridge I built between my world and the world around me. It was my life and it was my family. This is extremely disrespectful and you have deeply, deeply offended me. I want you to know that I take this very seriously and very personally. Who are you? Why would you do this? But if you do care and you understand what Christ On Parade was about, then this is especially sad, because what you have done goes against everything our band and our music stands for. In reality, there are those who share an alternative vision of the world, and those who desperately need to be woken up to new ideas. When we start begging and stealing from one another, disrespecting each other and ripping each other off is when we have truly become that which we hate. Lastly, I would like to address the people who distribute punk bootlegs. The difference between punk mu- sic and mainstream music is that punk comes from a real place inside people and has the power to transform social reality, and mainstream music does not. This is why bootleg- ging a punk band is entirely different from bootlegging a commercially successful rock band. Bootlegging a punk band is much more damaging and much more detrimental. Allow me to explain why this is so: The ideas exchanged between people through punk music and punk culture empower us both individually and collectively. For punks, these ideas are what makes us strong. You are taking away their right to represent them- selves, as well as , their right not to. Worst of ail, you are commodifying and devaluing their ideas. In the power of these ideas, remember, lies the strength of punk. Therefore, by bootlegging punk bands, you are essentially destroying punk and everything it represents. People who distribute these bootlegs are assisting with this downfall. Is this making sense to anybody? Something I held as sacred has been violated. Hi, this is Jo from Mind Matter. Noah has pretty much expressed how I feel about bootlegging punk what is up with that? It was not about the money- we felt that they should be heard. These records and this band were, on many different levels, a huge part of all our lives back in 1 You could call C. We had planned this year anniversary re-issue prior to finding out about the bootleg. I urge all C. Dear Noah and Jo, While I like and respect you both for your work I over the years, I do feel the need to point out a few things in light of your anger. My point is this: While some bootleg- gers are in it strictly for the money, the majority do it because they are fans, and despite the high prices one might end up paying in a store for such a record, the bootlegger usually isn't the one jacking up the price. Generally, the middlemen do that. 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There's a security guard at the door, "We're Furious George," I say into the mic to the eager faces, "and a funny thing happened to us on the way to the prison! The van was bright yellow, and could easily pass for the Furious Mobile. I was freezing and cranky. We had played Erie the night before, and had spent the whole night not getting anything. Espe- cially sleep. I'm for the Burger King. Adam here wants Subway. He's a vegetarian. What about you? Where the hell is our drummer? Much of anything. I had become dumb from tour- ing. And from dying my hair blond. I don't think I can handle anymore grease. I'm tired of hav- ing the 'rhea. Too bad! I also shivered a lot. It was fucking freezing. I ordered a Subway Trio. Ham, Turkey, roast beef. It was cheap. I also picked up a bag of Baked Lays and a bottle of Diet Pepsi. Road nectar of the Gods. I told her that we were full of that, thank you. We are try- ing to raise money for a dying child's last wish! I could barely afford the sub. Parked in the lot behind the place. I didn't have the keys, so I figured I'd stand around, and wait for Evan and Adam. Who did have them. Strangers talking to me when I don't get enough sleep is almost as bad as people throwing fish at me. He was wearing a warm jacket, jeans, boots, and looked sort of friendly. I hate friendly people at truck stops. Never know when they are gonna kill you. I don't know why, but I said I didn't mind. I guess I was just bored while waiting for Evan and Adam to get their stuff. Punk Rock. I had spent too much time in California with them F. The city? I just want to ask you some simple questions. Because if you are, I already told them inside that I'm out of dough. I'm a Jew. You people scare me. What if you're right and I am going to hell? I haven't packed. Bob then reached into his pocket and pulled out a wallet. He flipped it open and showed me a silver and blue badge. It said "Pennsylvania D. Suddenly he was joined by another friend. He showed me his D. It was purty. I don't know why. Probably because ever since I'd seen that D. My stomach was beginning to rumble. Just say No! The guys showed Evan and Adam their badges. Their faces went white. I just shrugged my shoulders, and they fconwtews both told Bob that they lived in New York, and gave him their Driver's License numbers. I'm not meaning to be pushy, but we have a gig to get to, and we're tired. Uh- huh. We'd like to know if we can have a dog just run around the outside of your van and see if he smells anything. None of us did drugs. He kind of scowled and told me that that was our choice. But he wouldn't tell us what would happen if we said no. I asked Adam and Evan if it was okay that a dog run around the van. They both thought it would be okay, and besides, we knew we didn't have a choice. Suddenly Bob whistles loudly, and a cop car that says "K-9 Unit" pulls up out of fucking no-where. Out of it comes an older, mean cop, in a D. If I want him to, he'll attack, and keep biting you until I tell him to stop. Fucking lunatic. Has to be, with a partner who pisses on three legs. The mean cop with the D. We are not really worried. None of us do drugs. We kinda hoped no one who was in the damn thing left any- thing. If it's more, than, well, Pennsylvania has very good drug laws on the side of the defendant. I did warn everyone never to carry any- thing. The dog ran around the van, sniffing, and found nothing. Maybe the dog's nose is just not ready. I know about you type of people. I halfway expected a camera crew to come out of hiding and tell us we were on "Cops". This was so stupid. The mean cop then gave the dog a rag. The dog bit it and started barking. Then tried to tear up the rag. The dog ran around our van again, then started to hop up and down on the passenger side door. Then it started scratching and bark- ing. Evan, Adam, and I just looked at the D. The dog smells drugs, so we believe you are carrying something. Of course you can say 'no'. The dog continued to bark and scratch up the van. Adam started to bitch about the paint job. The dog is never wrong! He had an eat-shit grin on his face. There was no phone around. That's when I pulled out my cellular. Punk rock. I didn't smile at the dog. He'd bite my mouth off. Adam dialed the phone and got his dad on the line. He explained to him our situation. They talked for quite a while. At two dollars a minute. Then they gave it a rag, and it went nuts! Between a lawyer and his client. Adam continued talking to his Dad, and the cops and dog got more and more antsy. That equipment is fucking heavy. You ever lifted a Marshall? He was playing some sort of bullshit game. Finally Bob gets on the phone and talks to Adam's dad for like fifteen minutes. I eat my sub. I'm hungry. Evan is able to get his coat out of the van after the jacket is searched. He's cold. Adam just stands around. Finally Bob gives Adam back his dad. Adam talks for a few seconds, then says, "Okay, I'll call you back," and hangs up. We gotta let them search the van. He smiles. I look at the other cop. I look at the dog's part- ner. He looks like he's about to come. We are a straight edge band. Like Minor Threat. Or Uniform Choice. Just say no! Adam unlocks the thing, and Bob pulls out our suitcases. The dogs sniffs those first. We believe there is some- thing in the front, so we won't search the back," explains Bob. I hate animals in the van. They smell it up. Then I have to take more showers. He runs into the van and eats my bag of potato chips, that's what he does. The dog barks like crazy, then starts to scratch at the ashtray. The cops take apart the ashtray of the van and look at and in it. The dog is never wrong. And you just wasted over an hour of our time. We have a gig to get to. In Clearfield. We are playing an old prison. Now a club. For the kids. But he's not. You should feed him more. He probably doesn't want to be sued. We want stickers. The dog barks in agreement. Of your band! What are you called again? It's full of stickers. From The Go-Go Rays. From Erie. Who gave them to us the night before. I'll put them on my car. In Prison! As we make our way toward the next gig Evan clears his throat, then speaks. It's Burger King. E mail me at furygeo aol. Evan at parkluck aol. Or you can mail us at P. Got lots of great records this month, and they include bands such as Toilet Boys, John Cougar Concentration Camp who rock my world. Teen Idols Ben Weasel Approved! Whatta month! I hear they are recording a single now. Been touring a lot lately. Thanks to everyone who has helped us out, and thanks Cleveland. What a show. In yellow tights. Girls, he has a huge bulge. I'm not kidding. P also rocked that night, and it was amazing to see Todd puke through his nose! Yeah Baby! And The Beatnick Termites! Those guys are the coolest! Nicest guys I've met in the midwest! Support them, they rule! When we did "Sonic Reduc- er", we stripped naked. Best line of the night came from Matt Army. Punk Rock! With the big noise in mainstream pub- lications about "fanzine revolution" a few years ago, I'm surprised the book deals didn't come sooner. I was hoping Aaron Cometbus would end up publishing a book before the millennium he did have a story excerpted for a photo book called Unheard Music. He's done enough interviews and in-depth stories on the band, so it would only come naturally. I'm sure Chris from Slug and Lettuce could publish an encyclopedia set of books from her photographs alone. Then came the books about fanzines by V. I'm hoping as people's zines begin grow that more people will take the DIY initiative and put together their own books. After col- lecting zines for over 10 years, I get excited at the idea of compiling a "best of" from my favorite zines. I have no idea how to set up perfect binding which is flat, book style spine, versus the folded and stapled spine that nearly every zine uses , printing resources, and most im- portantly, distribution. Incommunicado Press is a San Diego book publisher that has printed books by Nicole Panter, Jimmy Jazz and Bill Brent, along with music resource guides such as Releasing an Independent Record and Book Your Own Tour neither books apply much to the punk scene since most punk resources have been well-documented or can easily found through the usual punk chan- nels. Gary Hustwit, the owner of Incommunicado Press, told me a book distribution is well-organized. This leads me to believe that you don't have the resources to establish a publishing com- pany or the ability to smooth talk a distribu- tor into picking up your book, you're gonna be shit out of luck on the distribution side of things. I have the feeling book distribution is just as tough as zine distribution. Again, as more people become involved, DIY book publishing can create an alternate to playing the big business game, much as the zine world has done. It's got all the punk rant- ing you need, without the pretension. Phil admits that he doesn't know much about politics, but he gives his personal opin- ions from a working class bent coupled with his life experiences. At the same time the guy seems to like nothing more than to enjoy his favorite bands while getting drunk. One of those bands includes the almighty Venom, which is maybe part of the reason why I dig his zine that and he hates third wave ska. Feel free to write with any zine questions. I'm always looking for stories on Satanism, the occult, Christians gone bad, etc. Please include the name of the publication and the date it appeared in. I have to say I had a really good time. LA is one of those places I've never really envisioned myself. I mean. I've seen it on TV, but I've never really seen myself stand- ing in front of the Chinese theater where all of the hand prints and stars are in the sidewalk, or driving down Rodeo Drive. I guess I never really thought it existed, that it was a creation of TV and existed only in movies and sit corns. I really enjoyed being a tourist, but I did find one thing very disappointing. First, you have to understand that when I was in high school, I went to New York City with my mom and saw the Statue of Liberty for the first time. OK, if you've never seen the Statue of Liberty in person, your image of it comes from movies like Ghostbusters II where the statue comes to life and walks down the streets of the city, dwarfing all of the skyscrapers. And then you see it in real life we saw it from the 50th floor of the World Trade Center and it's fucking tiny! It's on some little island and it looks like it's 3 stories high! So, needless to say, I had built this great American icon up in my head to be something it wasn't, and my trip to LA killed my image of another Amer- ican landmark, the famed "Hollywood" sign. If you've never seen it, I hate to spoil the surprise but I have to tell you that the sign is pretty, well, small. On the drive back I had a pretty inter- esting conversation with this guy Christo- pher - who isn't native to California either. We talked about how we see the scene in California as being different than pretty much every where else either of us have ever lived. One of the big problems which he brought up but I heartily agree is that the scene here is so insular. In some ways, that's good, espe- cially if you're new in town. You can go to punk shows and live in a punk house and work at a job with other punks and go to punk stores. You don't have to interact with the rest of the world if you don't want to. What's good about this is that it's reas- suring and validating. It's encouraging to see punk and punks in other ways than besides in bands. It's good to see some utopian in a sense ideals being carried out. But it's not good because there's more to the world than punks, and unfortunately the punks are a great minority. It's easy to fall into a trap, or a cycle or a rut, where all you see and all you think about is punk rock and your own little world. But you leam from interact- ing with others outside of your culture. Just like, if you're white, you learn from interact- ing with others not like yourself. Like you learn perspective. How much do radical pol- itics matter to the average person? Or, how can you make radical politics matter to the average person? The other thing about punk being insu- lar is that I have always liked that punk is about thinking for yourself and being able to back up and defend all of your values and everything you stand for. About not getting what is in your head from your parents or from text books, but from figuring it out on your own, and reevaluating everything that is handed to you on a plate and through television and the culture you see around you every day. Being challenged on every aspect of what you are, every day. So what? Living in San Francisco you don't have to do that. You can have a job where you have tattoos and piercing and where you have fucked up hair and listen to loud music. No one will look at you twice. And you interact in a punk community were every body knows and mouths the words to the same general generic political line and no one really thinks about it. That means you can just sit back and relax your guard. And with that, I must ask myself, why have all of my columns been about "punk rock"? The comments I've just made about the punk rock community make me think I need to be talking about something more "real" and more tangible, but at the same time I know I write and talk about punk as a real culture and community because I want it to be something so tangible. We validate and reify such a thing as punk rock by talking about it and analyzing it, and I guess partici- pating in it, the way we do mainstream cul- ture. These things mean that we need to come up with both a way to make punk important and viable, but also to make it a part of our lives, not to let it consume us. The other punk rock related thing I wanted to mention was scenesters. I've been thinking about what makes a punk rock kid famous, and what makes them different from someone who isn't a scenester, and why peo- ple always want to talk to or about scenesters. And basically I came down to the idea that the reason I talk to "scenesters" is that to be a scenester, this person has done something to give me access to their ideas. Whether they have put out a zine or written a song, I now have some basis on which to start a conversa- tion with them and a point from which to start communicating with them. I think that's a very simple difference and it also makes no distinction between who has better or more valuable ideas, or who is a better or more valuable part of the scene. I've always main- tained that producers and consumers, audi- ence and performer are equally as vital to the livelihood of punk rock. And the good thing about this is that it is easy to make your ideas known, and to make them accessible, and it's up to you the scale which you want to do that. That's one good and valuable difference be- tween punk rock and the mainstream world - you can be heard if you want to. Not, what are you going to do about something that happened between people you do not or nev- er will know, but what are you going to do about rape in your own scene? The issue is not what MRR or HaC does to investigate allega- tions of any sort against a member of the nationwide punk rock community, it is about what you do when allegations are made against someone you know or interact with. It is each of our responsibility to confront mem- bers of our community when they do some- thing fucked up, and it needs to be done in a real and immediate way, by the people whom it most directly affects. These are real people's lives we are talking about here and the dramas shouldn't be played out across the pages of a national magazine by people who don't really know all the facts or the repercussions, and who won't feel any consequences themselves. On the same general topic, a month or two ago we printed a rumor about the band Hot Water Music in Anne R. Key's gossip column, which made a very serious accusa- tion against them, in a somewhat joking mat- ter. It involved one of the members beating up on his girlfriend. Apparently, while on tour, someone came up to them and asked them if this was true, and they've been get- ting some flak since. Now, not only would I never believe anything I read in the gossip column which has about as much veracity as anything printed in an April issue , I have talked to them about this and sincerely be- lieve it to be only a rumor. However, these kinds of "rumors" or accusations can be so damaging, and I wanted to give them a chance to defend themselves. You can write them at NW 13th St , Gainesville, FL if you want their side of the story on how and why this rumor began. As a general rule, before you believe something so serious about a person or a band, make sure you check with the source, and remember innocent until prov- en guilty. I have to say he was pretty much the highlight of both of the shows I attended. Quick, to the point, and very passionate, his political rants were concise and hit hard. My favorite of his poems starts "I hate my job, but I still go every day, I hate the cops but I still do what they say. I thought it was an awesome confrontation to all of the political type punks who talk the talk but don't really apply what they're saying to their everyday lives. Of course there are many contradictions about living within our "sys- tem" and our society, but these are things which need to be criticized and justified. Shit, if you need to talk Earlier this month about it, write me- I'll listen. Alright, I'll step lots of twanging and distortion, and the em- one of our hard disks crashed and took my down off my soapbox, now, and do some phasis on 'artsy'. They do get vicious at times, email program with it. I always learn things demo reviews. At times they make me think of York, NY Very poppy punk with cool unanswered messages, my saved messages, decent production. They're just a bit and my address book, so I am starting from luma, C A So, if you wrote me and I haven't the shit! Blazing, intense, old style Italian them appealing anyway. My only Brooklyn, NY And that would be it for wrote me about the Braid show at Punks With complaint is that there's not enough songs! My address is jenangel mind songs, good production. Vicious, crusty vocals, thick guitar, drum machine, samples. Pretty cool. Gotta love it! Pretty interesting. Hello, my name is Dave Emory, and it's this other crap? We're really supposed to be The male sounds just like Ray Cappo at times, my pleasure and privilege to present to you above this weak ass bullshit. Is this a result of 4 songs, decent production. Lee, the author of the the jock in punk explosion of '95? Give me a Portland, OR Yeah, 1 know, there's always been some solid punk. That's all there is to it. Everyone reemergence of Fascism, published in hard- ofthis stuff happening, but I don't know why. Guys- control your fucking dicks. It's that Different songs made me think of different Martin, welcome back to our airwaves, simple. Be cool. It's not that hard. Before the break, we were talking about want to do something. And as for you girls- own sound. What a surprise- they're from the incorporation of Third Reich spies into fucking think! Try not to get in a vulnerable Canada. Canada just seems to have the best the Western intelligence apparatus. We were position. Get to know someone pretty well underground bands. Never listen to great, funny, snotty hardcore, catchy and fast, tually working for a German geopolitical people's words, watch them. See how they as it should be. We talked about the Odessa Organi- act. A manipulative person can do something Queen St. I'm telling you, some cool, under- ship. In this context we were discussing an determine the way people treat you. That's a ground record label needs to pick these guys American representative of the Odessa Orga- simple fact. If I have a purple mohawk and up. Very intense, interesting, and original nization, and also an American operative of bondage gear, and leave my house. And we service, a fellow named H. Keith Thompson, arrested. It's not right. It's not fair. But it's the can't forget the awesome female vocals. These He worked directly with an American Fascist truth. But it's the roll, not a lot stands out, but pretty good stuff Soviets, as well as working in a Nazi and anti- truth, and you should expect it. I don't con- all the same. Neither was pro-Com- done it and I definitely don't think you are Howell St. Solid tunes with a decent dose of ML: Yes, this is true, and this takes on a very 5 rednecks for dressing punk , but I do expect originality- they kind of make me think of the vivid form in the case of Francis Parker Y ock- it. Carry some mace. Do something, man. Yockey, Also, I know that it's not just girls who get little thrashier. Keith Thompson, was actual- raped, and not just guys who do the raping, Frances St. He started working with them after the lately, so I thought I'd comment. Oh, yeah, violent thrash with a razor-edged distortion Prague show trials in late There's got to be some- production. Here you have another example of a Nazi working directly with Eastern European intelligence agencies, even though he was an ardent anti-Commu- nist. He did so, again, because he felt the geopolitical imperative of a German-Russian alliance was so overwhelming that he just sort-of had to overlook and overcome the fact that there was this ideological problem, i. Communism, in the Soviet Union. So accord- ing to H. Keith Thompson, who was Parker Yockey's close friend, Yockey admitted to Thompson that he was doing this, and this was all well and good for Thompson and his neo-Nazi circle in New York City where he was based during the early fifties. One of the things that we should discuss is how people like Francis Parker Yockey have left a legacy very much with us. Yockey was one of the key influences on Willis Carto and the Liberty Lobby. Yes, what happened is Yockey was seek- ing to elude Federal agents in the U. They were on his trail, there's no question they were seeking to find him. Well, Yockey made a sort of stupid error, with getting discovered and arrested in Oakland, CA in , and he was put in jail for eleven days in the San Francisco County Jail, and then he committed suicide in prison. Some- how he was given a cyanide tablet or some- thing that he munched on, and he died. Well, the last person from the outside to see Yockey in prison, besides his lawyer, was a rather obscure figure at the time named Willis Car- to, who today is behind the Liberty Lobby, which is a very well-developed anti-Semitic organization. Some people might describe it as a neo-Nazi group, but I think, from looking at its newspaper The Spotlight , you could def- initely say it dfinitely has sympathies for what you could correctly call Nazi and Fas- cist movements. I think Carto's politics are aptly summed up by some letters he had written to one of his associates that were discovered by someone who was working for the Liberty Lobby, who thought that Carto was basically just a strong. Right-wing con- servative, but then he discovered these let- ters, this Liberty Lobby employee, that indi- cate clearly Carto's pro-Nazi sympathies. These letters, and I'm paraphrasing, basically are saying that Hitler losing the war was the worst thing, and the blame has to go to the Jews, and these letters were eventually pub- lished by Drew Pearson, the noted syndicat- ed columnist, in the late s. So Carto is head of the Liberty Lobby these days, which is very tight with the militia movement in the United States, which has spun-off many dif- ferent permutations, including the Institute for Historical Review IHR — this is another Liberty Lobby project, an organization that claims the Holocaust never happened, and so forth and so on, and the great irony here is that Yockey is embraced by Carto as a patron saint for the Liberty Lobby after he commit- ted suicide in jail. So you could say that the patron saint for the Holocaust denial move- ment in the United States is a guy who was working for Czech intelligence, a Communist intelligence agency. Of course, Carto won't admit that, that would be very embarrassing for him, but that's the truth. And we should also note that elements associated with the 'old guard' from the Third Reich have, in a sense, spawned a new gener- ation. Yes, the Institute for Historical Review holds these meetings every year, every other year, at least they had been for a while, and they bring speakers, and they get together, and they sort of try to pretend that they're scholars objectively debating questions of historical relevance, particularly of the era in question, WWII and the Holocaust. What they really are is neo-Nazis and Holocaust deniers who are trying to inject their perspec- tive into the public debate as if it was some- how a legitimate historical perspective. Eastern-oriented Nazi, to come and address their group in And he did — he came and talked about his role during the anti-Hitler coup attempt in July , and he met with people there — it was the only time he had ever come to the United States, and what was amazing is you can tell about the kind of people the United States government has not let into the country, because of the Smith act and so forth, because of Commu- nism, and here's a guy, a Nazi, well-known internationally. Hitler's bodyguard, who had these open pro-Soviet, not pro-Communist but pro-Soviet sentiments in terms of his Ger- man-Russian alliance, is articulating very audibly, right until the present day, because Remer's still alive, and yet still, he was al- lowed into the country somehow. Getting back to your point, though about how the 'old guard' still had to mentor a new generation, well, that's exactly what happened. An important neo- Nazi organization internationally now, it hosts the commemoration for Franco's death every year in Spain that go on in November, and so it's very active, and this is what Skorzeny helped spawn. On the other side, you look at someone like Remer, who was directly in- volved in mentoring this latest generation of neo-Nazi leaders who were very instrumen- tal in the wave of neo-Nazi violence that gripped Germany after reunification in So there's direct continuity between the 'old guard' and the new generation. This is some- thing I try to draw very specifically in the book, and I think one of the really important reasons to do this is not simply for the sake of telling the story as to what happened, but because in this day and age, some of the Fascist leaders who are making a lot of head- way with mass-based political parties in Eu- rope, such as Jorg Haider in Austria or Le Pen in France, one of the techniques that they use to advance their objectives is to not claim that Nazis are Fascists, so it's very important for them to go back there in history, and show exactly how in fact they came right out of this Fascist milieu, and while they may claim to be just Right-wing populists these days, it's real- ly a ruse; they're neo-Fascists posing as pop- ulists DE: Perhaps we'll get a chance to talk about some of the connections of M. Le Pen and Heider a little later. Two of the main names in European neo-Fascism that evolved in a sense ideologically from Otto Ernst Remer were two of the acquaintances Michael Kiihnen and Abel Althans. Perhaps we'll get a chance to talk about the two of them later as well. Martin, after the Cold War, some of the seeds that I guess could be thought of as having been sown would be failure of denazification in part at least as a result of the see-saw policy that the Third Reich elements were pursuing, which we discussed in the first half of our interview, a lot of those seeds began to sprout anew. After reunification, Germany began to exhibit some disturbing signs of its old self. First of all we'll go back to the border expan- sion and the Oder-Neisse Line. Well, we should point out that in a German Constitution Court ruled that Ger- many's borders, which included part of what's now Poland and other countries, are the legitimate, legal borders for Germany, and that ruling stands today, even though chances are Helmut Kohl and the German government have after some dithering and equivocation acknowledged that the Oder- Neisse Line that's been the Oder-Neisse Riv- er that separates what is now Poland from what is now the eastern border of Germany. Even though that the German government, at least part of the German government, official- ly recognizes that as the border, it still stands that institutionally another part of the gov- ernment still does not recognize this border, and that's really peculiar, it's very odd: One of the primary elements in the Ger- SsMMjgm man revanchism and a key influence on Kohl are the Bund Der Vertriebenen who are thought of as a connecting link from the Third Reich past to the expansionist present ML: Yes, the Bund Der Vertriebenen is the association of expellees that were of German nationality, German ethnicity, that were ex- pelled from neighboring areas of Sudeten- land and what was Czechoslovakia, what is now the Czech Republic and parts of Poland and so forth. After WWII, as it was ending, there was a strong reaction against Germans, and innocent people were hurt in this, inno- cent Germans, but eventually many people were killed, and many people were forced to move from places they had been living, and they moved across the border, mainly into western Germany. There are many different expel- lee organizations, several of them have been founded by former SS members, and these still exist today. They get a lot of money from the German government, even though some of these organizations use that money to print Holocaust-denial literature, really revanchist and dyspeptic kind of extremist rhetoric in their publications, and some of these Bund Der Vertriebenen organizations, actually funded by the German government today, work with neo-Nazi groups in Germany. What's going on here? Well, I've talked to U. State Department people about this, and I said, "What's going on, why is so much money being given to these groups? How do you interpret this? Give them some money, let them do their thing, but in the end they'll make the policies that Chancellor Kohl wants to make. With regard to German foreign policy in the post-Cold War period, you discuss a Ger- man role in the break-up of both the Yugoslav Federation and Czechoslovakia. Well the Yugoslav Federation, that situation, is fairly well known. It's known even that U. What's less well-known is that the German government's role in desta- bilizing Czechoslovakia, and supporting the rise of the Slavic separatists and nationalists, in particular the strong-man they made chair, the head of the government for awhile, and this support was channeled through a foun- dation called the Hans-Seidl Stiftung, which is essentially the foundation run by the Chris- tian Social Union, another political party in Germany, located in Bavaria, and it's essen- tially the sister party for the Christian Demo- cratic Union. They work hand-in-hand, they're part of the same coalition govern- ment; the Christian Social Union is looked upon as being a shade more conservative than the CDU as a whole, but this foundation is explicitly associated with the CSU, the Chris- tian Social Union, that was involved in foster- ing the rise of the Slavic separatist movement, which eventually culminated in the break-up of Czechoslovakia. I should add one other point: Now, what is a German government-connected organization doing supporting this kind of political ideology in this day and age? You've gotta ask yourself some serious questions about that. We should mention that the Axis nations, in addition to Germany — Japan, and Italy — also involved Rumania under the Fascist Iron Guard, Hungary under the Fascist Iron Cross, Bulgaria under the National Front, and also Slovakia was broken off from Czechoslova- kia and became an independent collabora- tionist government under Father Josef Tiso, and Croatia also became a satellite state of Germany, and was broken off temporarily from Yugoslavia, so when the German geo- politics vis-a-vis what used to be Czechoslo- vakia and Yugoslavia were seen to a certain extent a recapitulation of the Hitler period. In a sense, you do. You see the same kind of borders are forming. I think in Croatia, it's probably not too much of an exaggeration to say that if there's one country in the world where you have a Fascist government, it's Croatia today. There's no question that they glorify the Fascist past, and they're resurrect- ing that kind of sensibility, and it's certainly not a democratic country, even though it had won support from the United States for awhile during the conflict with Serbia, and had heavy military support from the German govern- ment, illegally, because the arms shipments which the Germans were providing, which included MIG fighter jets, and so forth, this is something that was a contradiction of the international agreements at the time. So you do see that in Eastern Europe there is that tendency, or that sort of come-back, where you have very serious economic conditions and social conditions, where according to UNICEF reports that the quality of life is far worse than what it was during the Commu- nist period, and I'm not saying that to advo- cate Communist ideas, just that this is the reality of the whiplash transition from Com- munism to capitalism has been very difficult for countries in Eastern Europe. While it's not bound to happen that a lot of these countries are likely to form Fascist governments, it is very ripe for a very nasty reaction, should the situation not improve in the future. And some of the same Ustase Fascist elements have been making a comeback in Croatia under Tutjman, as you note. With regard to a disturbing return to some ele- ments of the past on the part of Germany, and also making a transition to one of the most illuminating of the many illuminating ele- ments of your book, the anti-immigrant pol- icy that was enunciated, perhaps initially by neo-Nazi German elements, and then was taken on wholeheartedly by Helmut Kohl, and utilized very effectively in German poli- tics, highlights to a certain extent a parallel, and perhaps that's the wrong choice of terms, but a coincidence of policy between the Ger- man neo-Nazi element, those people like Kiihnen and Althans and others, and the policies by the so-called mainstream Helmut Kohl-CDU-CSU, both in regard to anti-immi- grant sentiment and policy, and also with regard to German expansionism. I think there are these parallels and con- tinuities, and it is significant, and this is not to say that the German government is a Nazi government or something like that, or that they're pro-Nazi, it's not true, but the policies of the German government have had an im- pact that has actually helped facilitate neo- Nazism in that country, even though that might not be the government officials' prime intention, or anything like that. Instead what happened is that they had to raise taxes, and West Germans were very bitter because they had to foot the bill, a very expensive bill, for reunification, and all that sort-of policy was screwing up..

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YET we all will concede there is I right and wrong ie. Sorry, it is only going to get worse better from I here on out. Apathy seems to be settling in more and more I everyday in this community and the society around us. I Mainly because we get jaded trying to follow paths that we I are led to believe will lead us to a more JUST society and I true fulfillment.

Led by ideologies and methods that are I limited, incomplete, and ineffective, and so, too many get I burnt out, accepting the lie that there is no hope, make I what you can out of it. Then we wonder what happened when nothing seems to I have changed.

Because continue reading fundamental ideologies and [ presumptions about what is wrong is limited, because it I comes from subjective limited philosophers and political ideologies. And so the structures and systems that per- petuate the injustices of torture, starvation and ecocide are I never shaken but left in Jux a married woman cant resist that serina minami to continue wreaking havoc I on our world, and all its life.

Americans are I bought off, be it beer and soap operas, or punk rock and I Nintendo, porno, sex - kept comfortable and distracted. Humanity is divided by its distraction and attach- ments to the false idols it resurrects to fill the void created I by straying so far from the universal source of justice, I equality, love, true freedom, THAT is ALLAH. The point of de- 1 tachment from these distractions is so we are not blinded I from acting upon what is JUST, opposed to allowing our attachment to these various distractions and our subjec- tive physical desires for pleasure Jux a married woman cant resist that serina minami comfort dictate our I actions.

It can be applied to all people who wish to to put I loyalty to justice, equality and love before attachment to I race gender, nationality or culture Dan XracetraitorX dbinaei shrike. Fuck all that intellectualism and rhetoric— just spell out where the bullshit lies, try to steer a path for yourselves and your friends where you can maintain your integrity, stay somewhat sane, and still be able to give to the greater good both materially, spiritually, and through I example.

Good lucki! My concern for the activity of the punk commu- nity, however, has not. Over the past few years, I have been constantly I amazed and impressed by the number of punks who have I entered the field of education.

I think my high school experi- I ence would have been a lot different if I had had even one I teacher who I could have even remotely related to. Not so, 1 unfortunately; the teachers made sure that the dividing line I between them and the students was indelibly drawn. No ] human connection between the Jux a married woman cant resist that serina minami sides was ever made. Oh yeah, if you guys know of any punk I librarians lurking about? So much for postal efficiency I'm in a position to see the war zone that is record distribution from the trenches on both sides of the line.

First off, lefs be precise. There are not "thousands" I of distributors out there selling wholesale punk rock records I to record stores, as is lightheartedly alluded in the article, but 1 rather a couple dozen at most.

Prove it for yourself: Now try listing every label making punk records I mentioned in any ad or review. I Two months later there will be 50 new labels starling up. The I fact is that a vast, amorphous, and constantly fluctuating I corps of labels must deal with a relatively few distributors.

That is the organizational task and its form should deter- mine the solution. They are awesome. They are terrific. They are fabulous. That can be a pain What are you gonna do, blackball fucking Jux a married woman cant resist that serina minami Of course not! There are good distributors and there are bad distributors. The key is to steer labels away from the bad guys and towards the good guys.

Please note: But there are distributors out there who will intentionally try to fuck labels over, it is a function of the way they do business.

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A written contract with a nogoodnik is worth less than a verbal agreement with a good guy. Thafs a fact. The key is to avoid the shitbags and to help other people avoid the shitbags. It is also worthwhile to spur the basically good people to do the right here when they fuck up.

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It is the boxes of unsold-but-paid-for records sitting in the warehouse that tie up the cash-flow of your average distributor and make it literally impossible for them to pay their bills on time.

Forcing distributors to buy more stuff up front on non-returnable terms would make their cash-flow situation worse and cause them to pay their bills slower and to fur- ther act in various ways not favorable to Jux a married woman cant resist that serina minami in- terests of little labels.

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However, I can shout myself hoarse about how the content of MRR relies on what comes in the mail to us, and still not get a single thing. I am glad you are making these observations and criticisms, but start making some contributions to the magazine in the form of interviews and articles and help make it live up to your expectations. Steve and Trev, I think MRR still serves a great function, and, if anything, is somewhat taken for granted because of its bedrock regularity. But I think our music review section is by far and away the best going for the areas of music that we cover, both in terms of completeness and in generally savvy reviewers. Again, the best selection of columnists of any zine around. I do think that if MRR ceases, this scene will sorely miss a resource that only comes along once a generation at best , one that not only serves its function as an amazing monthly resouce of communication, but one that goes beyond that function to constructive community activism and in putting its money where its mouth is. Lee never mentioned the Skrewdriver song in his review of the NYC oi! I still feel that the apolitical trend in oi! We have to draw the line. Peace and Revolution, J. Walker jewalker mail. Rich- ard J. Makin states that a man in plainclothes, who unbeknownst to him was a police officer, was pushing a person who was attempting to leave the scene of a disturbance. Makin called this to the attention of a uniformed officer, who instead of responding to the apparent assault, threatened Rev. Makin with arrest, and further threatened criminal charges when the Rev. Clearly, there are police officers who abuse their power, violate civil liberties, and act in a manner befitting only of belligerent hog-like creatures. I think that few reading this zine would disagree with that characterization. However, what is important to acknowledge is that not all, not even most police officers, are like this, in fact there are some, albeit too few, that maintain a high degree of professionalism, treat everyone with respect, and honestly do care about you - yes even YOU. The incident that Rev. Makin de- scribes is an outrage to the latter category of police officers. I would encourage Rev. Makin and everyone else who has an encounter with the police in which they think that they were treated inappropriately, to file a complaint with the Internal Affairs Division of the Police Department. Contrary to popular belief, in most modern agencies including Boston such a complaint will not fall on deaf ears. The incident will be investigated, the officers involved will be questioned, and if sustained, disciplinary action will be taken against them. Even if the officers are exonerated, having gone through the internal Affairs pro- cess will likely deter the officers from acting as carelessly in the future. If the issue is still not resolved to your satisfaction, by all means contact City Hall, the ACLU, the media, whatever it lawfully takes to satisfy you. To a truly caring and hard working cop, this will mean a lot, and inspire them to continue their ways. We all deserve to be treated as human beings first, beyond our chosen profession or subcultural affiliations. Rick rosberg lynx. Secondly, it is naive to think that police review commissions or police internal investigation units will somehow lead to justice in any given case. In fact, quite the opposite is tme— generally speaking, as we have seen with countless high profile police abuse cases in the last few years, the cops generally walk or at worst are given a slap on the hand. It is quite rare when severe actions are taken by committees or juries against police abuse. Tim Hey guys, I just wanted to drop this note in response to the Those Unknown interview in the December issue. I thought the inter- view was great and I think Bill and the guys and Araena have a lot of valuable things to say. I'm glad they had a chance to step up to the mic through your mag. My point of interest is the Boston show that is mentioned on the third page of the interview. I got the impression that they had been screwed around before. Finally, I was able to con- vince them to come. The show was great! I have to say, Those Unknown stole the show. The kids have been begging me to get them up here again ever since May 3rd. This is blown way out of proportion. There was one clown who was running his mouth outside the club and was quickly silenced without ever confronting the band with his igno- rance. They had a better reaction than any band I have ever seen in Boston. But not mentioned in the interview was the other billing that read: This was billed on all of the 2, fliers I distributed. While this whole issue only covered two short questions in the interview I felt l had to write for several reasons. The first is that I booked Those Unknown for a follow up show on July 12th that they canceled shortly before the date. While we sadly have just lost the Rat, we have probably the best scene in the country. Hell, the Ducky Boys just head- lined a show to kids on November 8 and Showcase Showdown played to even more than that the week before. No band should have any doubts about penciling in Boston as the most important date on their tour. Let me note that Anti-Flag, the Unseen, and the Pinkerton Thugs — all bands of a left-of-the- mark leaning— are some of the most popular draws here. At any rate, let me thank you again for the Those Unknown interview. Bill or Araena, get in touch! You have my number or get it through GMM. I own a small record shop in Or- lando, Florida that puts on live shows from time to time. They have a decent space but their landlord wants a grand a month. Some months ago they were scheduled to play at my record shop. Unfortu- nately prior to their set someone stood on my sink all the bands sign the bathroom and knocked it out of the wall resulting in a flooded store. Fortunately I only have ugly astro turf for carpet so nothing got ruined. As it turned out, the person that stood on the sink was traveling with Operation Cliff Clavin. I am sure that night ' was less than friendly because I had a busted pipe flooding the store and we could not get the water turned off. The reason I am writing this letter is because Operation Cliff Clavin, even though they were on tour, did not ask for a dime in payment that night. Nobody made money that night but by not taking any money Operation Cliff Clavin lost money. In some regards it was the only decent thing for them to do since they were indirectly responsible for the damage — but; in other senses, they were on the road and needed money also. Mills Ave Orlando, Florida http: This established a social security blanket to finance unemployment insurance. The Wagner Act did help establish a National Labor Relations Board which allowed collective bargaining rights of employees. Only after the passage of the Wagner Act were changes actually achieved by the unions. The NRA was suppose to impose certain indus- trial codes to promote honest business. Companies that supported the NRA were to honor a minimum wage, allow labor unions and collective bargaining, 8 hour work day, provide work benefits and the sort. As Americans, in the Depression, it was patriotic to support products and shops with the NRA logo, a blue eagle. Supporting the NRA supported your friends, the economy, the government, America and yourself and family. The Supreme Court eventually declared this act unconstitutional. These changes in industrial workplaces were not a result of labor unions kicking ass, but a result of the Great Depression which was the result of frivolous spending, resentment, and war. The US government, under Presi- dent Roosevelt, saw that there was a need to change the present system. People were starving in the streets during the depression. There was an unprecedented 15 to 17 million people unemployed with no hope for a future. Changes in the system were required to give hope to people during the time to survive and a hope that their children would survive and prosper. Another topic is the UPS strike. I have a friend that works for UPS and participated in the famed strike that Nick looks so highly upon. My friend continuously com- plains that they still have not received their raise. Now that to me does not sound like sticking it to the man. They usually irritate me, but I think that this is actually a good thing. He provokes a great deal of thought and response of the readers of MRR. Thank you for your time. Sincerely yours, Matt 0. I am looking for Spanish and French penpals to communicate in French and Spanish. Write for a free copy. Roosevelt took the steps that he mmmu felt would preserve capi- talism, even if it was dis- agreeable to the short term interests of the rul- ing class. Plus , whatever gains labor made even after said legislation was passed were usually very roughly earned. Also , it is no coinci- dence that the overall standard of living for regular working people has declined parallel to the decline of power of organized labor over the last 30 years. By the way, I asked the UPS driver who delivers to where I work about the delay in receiving benefits from the strike settlement and he said it has to do with company shenanigans and some sort of dispute with the Pennsylva- nia locals , and he does not hold the union responsible for that at all. Tim MattO. Back to the history books for you. By the time FDR was elected in during the Great Depression there were strong Communist-led un- employed movements in many cities as well as a growing working class militancy. Only the NRA covered industrial policy- allowing capital to monopolistically limit production and fix prices in exchange for setting minimum hours and pay, legalizing collective bargaining, etc. The year witnessed widespread working class un- rest expressed in mass strikes, much of it eventually directed toward rank-and file labor union organizing, in part because the government was unable to enforce the NRA. Longshoremen tied up shipping on the West Coast in spring and summer of with a rank-and-file insurrec- tion, catalyzing the San Francisco general strike from July 16 through 19, after police killed 3 workers and wounded 1 15 others. The general strike called out some , workers and paralyzed the city. The powers-that - be assembled special police and 4, National Guard to quell the general strike, forcing the longshore- men to settle. A crowd of 10, angry striking workers held 1, strikebreakers in the Toledo, Ohio Auto-Lite parts plant in May until machine gun toting National Guard broke their blockade, killing 2 and wounding The Teamsters under Trotskyist leadership won three succes- sive, bloody stikes in Minneapolis in summer Tex- tile workers went out on an East Coast general strike as well in 1 ; , in the south and , nationwide by September In all, a million and half workers struck in different industries in in what amounted to a year of violent class warfare. The bourgeois press was clear as to what they thought about the rebellious workers of The WPA which I employed people in public works, the passage of the Wagner I Act guaranteeing workers union recognition and collective [ bargaining, the creation of the NLRB to arbitrate disputes l between workers and owners, the establishment of unem - 1 ployment insurance and social security all occurred in Working class militancy produced l government reforms on paper, which the workers then had to fight for on the job and in their communities, sometimes with I unions and other times without. And while American capital might not I have minded a little fascism, FDR sought to preserve a more - 1 or-less democratic corporate capitalism in recovering from I the Depression, against the perceived extremes of social - 1 ism, fascism and leveling populism. Zieger, Strike! We would like to I extend special thanks to Jen and to Mike who did the I interview and instigated it for their patience because, we I were hard to pin down for the interview as no one knows our I TRUE identities! The purpose of this letter is to clarify certain points I we have tried to make in the past year. It is also to take responsibility for, in the past, promoting certain ideologies that we no longer believe are solutions to the issues that we have tried to raise. The two members of the band that were heavily I involved with the Uhuru movement are no longer working I with that particular organization. It is also important to I point out that this was never the only source of knowledge or I analyses about these issues that we derived our ideas from I as people or a band we added lot of our own ideas and had I our own interpretations of their analyses, which the move- 1 ment was always quick to point out. There is really no need to go into depth at this point I about the criticisms we have of the Uhuru movement, and in fact, there is good reason not to in this public forum. Basically we do not want our criticisms of this organization or any others to be used as an excuse and legitimization for complacency or apathetic laziness which in many cases it already has become. Western culture, especially in the U. S, has the tendency to try to divide our lives into 57 separate parts that do not have to be consis- tent with one another. Our society has taken spirituality or belief in God and perverted it, turned it into a hobby pastime, and justification for oppression. This is true of especially western Christianity. Which is important to specify, because we are not advocating going back to church with your mom unless of course you have the intention of confronting them on true ethics and principles of the creator. We are also not advocating involvement in spiritual groups who do not do anything to change or impact society around them. This has never been the true purpose of spiritu- ality, as defined by any of the messengers of god. Does this mean that these movements have a bad analyses of politics and economics? Does it mean they have the solutions to the problems analyzed well? Are the problems they point out the only contributions to the problems that plague humanity, NOOOoooo! These ide- 1 ologiesattemptto appeal I to the material side of human beings to moti- vate them to change so- 1 ciety. Their ideology is I inherently flawed because truth, right and wrong are very real forces which are immaterial and impossible to physi- 1 cally objectively prove? YET we all will concede there is I right and wrong ie. Sorry, it is only going to get worse better from I here on out. Apathy seems to be settling in more and more I everyday in this community and the society around us. I Mainly because we get jaded trying to follow paths that we I are led to believe will lead us to a more JUST society and I true fulfillment. Led by ideologies and methods that are I limited, incomplete, and ineffective, and so, too many get I burnt out, accepting the lie that there is no hope, make I what you can out of it. Then we wonder what happened when nothing seems to I have changed. Because the fundamental ideologies and [ presumptions about what is wrong is limited, because it I comes from subjective limited philosophers and political ideologies. And so the structures and systems that per- petuate the injustices of torture, starvation and ecocide are I never shaken but left in place to continue wreaking havoc I on our world, and all its life. Americans are I bought off, be it beer and soap operas, or punk rock and I Nintendo, porno, sex - kept comfortable and distracted. Humanity is divided by its distraction and attach- ments to the false idols it resurrects to fill the void created I by straying so far from the universal source of justice, I equality, love, true freedom, THAT is ALLAH. The point of de- 1 tachment from these distractions is so we are not blinded I from acting upon what is JUST, opposed to allowing our attachment to these various distractions and our subjec- tive physical desires for pleasure and comfort dictate our I actions. It can be applied to all people who wish to to put I loyalty to justice, equality and love before attachment to I race gender, nationality or culture Dan XracetraitorX dbinaei shrike. Fuck all that intellectualism and rhetoric— just spell out where the bullshit lies, try to steer a path for yourselves and your friends where you can maintain your integrity, stay somewhat sane, and still be able to give to the greater good both materially, spiritually, and through I example. Good lucki! My concern for the activity of the punk commu- nity, however, has not. Over the past few years, I have been constantly I amazed and impressed by the number of punks who have I entered the field of education. I think my high school experi- I ence would have been a lot different if I had had even one I teacher who I could have even remotely related to. Not so, 1 unfortunately; the teachers made sure that the dividing line I between them and the students was indelibly drawn. No ] human connection between the two sides was ever made. Oh yeah, if you guys know of any punk I librarians lurking about? So much for postal efficiency I'm in a position to see the war zone that is record distribution from the trenches on both sides of the line. First off, lefs be precise. There are not "thousands" I of distributors out there selling wholesale punk rock records I to record stores, as is lightheartedly alluded in the article, but 1 rather a couple dozen at most. Prove it for yourself: Now try listing every label making punk records I mentioned in any ad or review. I Two months later there will be 50 new labels starling up. The I fact is that a vast, amorphous, and constantly fluctuating I corps of labels must deal with a relatively few distributors. That is the organizational task and its form should deter- mine the solution. They are awesome. They are terrific. They are fabulous. That can be a pain What are you gonna do, blackball fucking everybody?!?! Of course not! There are good distributors and there are bad distributors. The key is to steer labels away from the bad guys and towards the good guys. Please note: But there are distributors out there who will intentionally try to fuck labels over, it is a function of the way they do business. Posting a message on a site is a tot less work than sending and carbon copying to thirty different people at least one of whom changes their email address every other week, it seems! The bottom line is this: The bad apples will always remain bad apples. The correct approach should be to identify and publicize who the bad apples are so that they can be avoided. Hell, my very worst experience with a distributor was with one who required a written contract. A written contract with a nogoodnik is worth less than a verbal agreement with a good guy. Thafs a fact. The key is to avoid the shitbags and to help other people avoid the shitbags. It is also worthwhile to spur the basically good people to do the right thing when they fuck up. It is the boxes of unsold-but-paid-for records sitting in the warehouse that tie up the cash-flow of your average distributor and make it literally impossible for them to pay their bills on time. Forcing distributors to buy more stuff up front on non-returnable terms would make their cash-flow situation worse and cause them to pay their bills slower and to fur- ther act in various ways not favorable to the in- terests of little labels. Distributors faced with buying goods up front would definitely take fewer chances on new bands and new labels. You'd better have big name releases or a long track record, Mr. An EP with an unknown band? Forget it! Nothing but risk, a big possible downside only fractionally offset by a relatively small possible upside. Distributors who buy up front also tend to systematically underestimate their potential sales. If they wind up missing 20 sales in the process because they estimated demand too low, that's not a big problem to them. Getting stuck with 20 unsold and unsellable CDs— now that's a big problem to them. A distributor that has a clause allowing unsold goods to be returned will tend to cover the full potential demand— possibly returning some unsold stuff, possibly keeping everything, depending on the real demand for the item. Distributors who buy things up front also tend to overemphasize new releases at the expense of back catalog. This makes sense if you give it some thought. As a distributor, I work on consignment terms with my primary labels. Well, as a label, I want to sell back catalog. No, more than that, I need to sell back catalog. Well, there are a lot of words here. Thanks for reading along. Tim Davenport T. It is an insult to the band and to you. I assure you that, with the time and care we put into it, it will be a worthy representation and celebra- tion of the band. Needless to say, C. The music was, and still is, very precious to me. For five years of my life, Christ On Parade was my voice. It was how I expressed my feelings and shared my ideas. It was how I worked through my conflicts and dilemmas, and how I communicated my struggles and revelations. It was the bridge I built between my world and the world around me. It was my life and it was my family. This is extremely disrespectful and you have deeply, deeply offended me. I want you to know that I take this very seriously and very personally. Who are you? Why would you do this? But if you do care and you understand what Christ On Parade was about, then this is especially sad, because what you have done goes against everything our band and our music stands for. In reality, there are those who share an alternative vision of the world, and those who desperately need to be woken up to new ideas. When we start begging and stealing from one another, disrespecting each other and ripping each other off is when we have truly become that which we hate. Lastly, I would like to address the people who distribute punk bootlegs. The difference between punk mu- sic and mainstream music is that punk comes from a real place inside people and has the power to transform social reality, and mainstream music does not. This is why bootleg- ging a punk band is entirely different from bootlegging a commercially successful rock band. Bootlegging a punk band is much more damaging and much more detrimental. Allow me to explain why this is so: The ideas exchanged between people through punk music and punk culture empower us both individually and collectively. For punks, these ideas are what makes us strong. You are taking away their right to represent them- selves, as well as , their right not to. Worst of ail, you are commodifying and devaluing their ideas. In the power of these ideas, remember, lies the strength of punk. Therefore, by bootlegging punk bands, you are essentially destroying punk and everything it represents. People who distribute these bootlegs are assisting with this downfall. Is this making sense to anybody? Something I held as sacred has been violated. Hi, this is Jo from Mind Matter. Noah has pretty much expressed how I feel about bootlegging punk what is up with that? It was not about the money- we felt that they should be heard. These records and this band were, on many different levels, a huge part of all our lives back in 1 You could call C. We had planned this year anniversary re-issue prior to finding out about the bootleg. I urge all C. Dear Noah and Jo, While I like and respect you both for your work I over the years, I do feel the need to point out a few things in light of your anger. My point is this: While some bootleg- gers are in it strictly for the money, the majority do it because they are fans, and despite the high prices one might end up paying in a store for such a record, the bootlegger usually isn't the one jacking up the price. Generally, the middlemen do that. Is this not a bootleg by your standards, too? Why the silence? Use phone for ad reservations. Check out their debut 7" on Prank Records. Charles Bronson. Asshole Parade. U XV xOXji. All items ppd in US. Loose Change CD and more! Dave sifted through 17, tapes and came up with the best of his demos. The classic Ramones live album gets sifted through a Japanese interpreter for an even more warped take of the Ramones original lyrics. 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I sort of won- dered why they'd place a Subway in a truck stop. We are in a huge cell block, and on the floor in front of us is an outline of a man. It turns out that this guy had hung himself some years ago, and when they cut him down, that's where he landed. Above us are metal walks, and more prison cells. At the back of the cell block is a small hole in the wall that reads "food". There's a security guard at the door, "We're Furious George," I say into the mic to the eager faces, "and a funny thing happened to us on the way to the prison! The van was bright yellow, and could easily pass for the Furious Mobile. I was freezing and cranky. We had played Erie the night before, and had spent the whole night not getting anything. Espe- cially sleep. I'm for the Burger King. Adam here wants Subway. He's a vegetarian. What about you? Where the hell is our drummer? Much of anything. I had become dumb from tour- ing. And from dying my hair blond. I don't think I can handle anymore grease. I'm tired of hav- ing the 'rhea. Too bad! I also shivered a lot. It was fucking freezing. I ordered a Subway Trio. Ham, Turkey, roast beef. It was cheap. I also picked up a bag of Baked Lays and a bottle of Diet Pepsi. Road nectar of the Gods. I told her that we were full of that, thank you. We are try- ing to raise money for a dying child's last wish! I could barely afford the sub. Parked in the lot behind the place. I didn't have the keys, so I figured I'd stand around, and wait for Evan and Adam. Who did have them. Strangers talking to me when I don't get enough sleep is almost as bad as people throwing fish at me. He was wearing a warm jacket, jeans, boots, and looked sort of friendly. I hate friendly people at truck stops. Never know when they are gonna kill you. I don't know why, but I said I didn't mind. I guess I was just bored while waiting for Evan and Adam to get their stuff. Punk Rock. I had spent too much time in California with them F. The city? I just want to ask you some simple questions. Because if you are, I already told them inside that I'm out of dough. I'm a Jew. You people scare me. What if you're right and I am going to hell? I haven't packed. Bob then reached into his pocket and pulled out a wallet. He flipped it open and showed me a silver and blue badge. It said "Pennsylvania D. Suddenly he was joined by another friend. He showed me his D. It was purty. I don't know why. Probably because ever since I'd seen that D. My stomach was beginning to rumble. Just say No! The guys showed Evan and Adam their badges. Their faces went white. I just shrugged my shoulders, and they fconwtews both told Bob that they lived in New York, and gave him their Driver's License numbers. I'm not meaning to be pushy, but we have a gig to get to, and we're tired. Uh- huh. We'd like to know if we can have a dog just run around the outside of your van and see if he smells anything. None of us did drugs. He kind of scowled and told me that that was our choice. But he wouldn't tell us what would happen if we said no. I asked Adam and Evan if it was okay that a dog run around the van. They both thought it would be okay, and besides, we knew we didn't have a choice. Suddenly Bob whistles loudly, and a cop car that says "K-9 Unit" pulls up out of fucking no-where. Out of it comes an older, mean cop, in a D. If I want him to, he'll attack, and keep biting you until I tell him to stop. Fucking lunatic. Has to be, with a partner who pisses on three legs. The mean cop with the D. We are not really worried. None of us do drugs. We kinda hoped no one who was in the damn thing left any- thing. If it's more, than, well, Pennsylvania has very good drug laws on the side of the defendant. I did warn everyone never to carry any- thing. The dog ran around the van, sniffing, and found nothing. Maybe the dog's nose is just not ready. I know about you type of people. I halfway expected a camera crew to come out of hiding and tell us we were on "Cops". This was so stupid. The mean cop then gave the dog a rag. The dog bit it and started barking. Then tried to tear up the rag. The dog ran around our van again, then started to hop up and down on the passenger side door. Then it started scratching and bark- ing. Evan, Adam, and I just looked at the D. The dog smells drugs, so we believe you are carrying something. Of course you can say 'no'. The dog continued to bark and scratch up the van. Adam started to bitch about the paint job. The dog is never wrong! He had an eat-shit grin on his face. There was no phone around. That's when I pulled out my cellular. Punk rock. I didn't smile at the dog. He'd bite my mouth off. Adam dialed the phone and got his dad on the line. He explained to him our situation. They talked for quite a while. At two dollars a minute. Then they gave it a rag, and it went nuts! Between a lawyer and his client. Adam continued talking to his Dad, and the cops and dog got more and more antsy. That equipment is fucking heavy. You ever lifted a Marshall? He was playing some sort of bullshit game. Finally Bob gets on the phone and talks to Adam's dad for like fifteen minutes. I eat my sub. I'm hungry. Evan is able to get his coat out of the van after the jacket is searched. He's cold. Adam just stands around. Finally Bob gives Adam back his dad. Adam talks for a few seconds, then says, "Okay, I'll call you back," and hangs up. We gotta let them search the van. He smiles. I look at the other cop. I look at the dog's part- ner. He looks like he's about to come. We are a straight edge band. Like Minor Threat. Or Uniform Choice. Just say no! Adam unlocks the thing, and Bob pulls out our suitcases. The dogs sniffs those first. We believe there is some- thing in the front, so we won't search the back," explains Bob. I hate animals in the van. They smell it up. Then I have to take more showers. He runs into the van and eats my bag of potato chips, that's what he does. The dog barks like crazy, then starts to scratch at the ashtray. The cops take apart the ashtray of the van and look at and in it. The dog is never wrong. And you just wasted over an hour of our time. We have a gig to get to. In Clearfield. We are playing an old prison. Now a club. For the kids. But he's not. You should feed him more. He probably doesn't want to be sued. We want stickers. The dog barks in agreement. Of your band! What are you called again? It's full of stickers. From The Go-Go Rays. From Erie. Who gave them to us the night before. I'll put them on my car. In Prison! As we make our way toward the next gig Evan clears his throat, then speaks. It's Burger King. E mail me at furygeo aol. Evan at parkluck aol. Or you can mail us at P. Got lots of great records this month, and they include bands such as Toilet Boys, John Cougar Concentration Camp who rock my world. Teen Idols Ben Weasel Approved! Whatta month! I hear they are recording a single now. Been touring a lot lately. Thanks to everyone who has helped us out, and thanks Cleveland. What a show. In yellow tights. Girls, he has a huge bulge. I'm not kidding. P also rocked that night, and it was amazing to see Todd puke through his nose! Yeah Baby! And The Beatnick Termites! Those guys are the coolest! Nicest guys I've met in the midwest! Support them, they rule! When we did "Sonic Reduc- er", we stripped naked. Best line of the night came from Matt Army. Punk Rock! With the big noise in mainstream pub- lications about "fanzine revolution" a few years ago, I'm surprised the book deals didn't come sooner. I was hoping Aaron Cometbus would end up publishing a book before the millennium he did have a story excerpted for a photo book called Unheard Music. He's done enough interviews and in-depth stories on the band, so it would only come naturally. I'm sure Chris from Slug and Lettuce could publish an encyclopedia set of books from her photographs alone. Then came the books about fanzines by V. I'm hoping as people's zines begin grow that more people will take the DIY initiative and put together their own books. After col- lecting zines for over 10 years, I get excited at the idea of compiling a "best of" from my favorite zines. I have no idea how to set up perfect binding which is flat, book style spine, versus the folded and stapled spine that nearly every zine uses , printing resources, and most im- portantly, distribution. Incommunicado Press is a San Diego book publisher that has printed books by Nicole Panter, Jimmy Jazz and Bill Brent, along with music resource guides such as Releasing an Independent Record and Book Your Own Tour neither books apply much to the punk scene since most punk resources have been well-documented or can easily found through the usual punk chan- nels. Gary Hustwit, the owner of Incommunicado Press, told me a book distribution is well-organized. This leads me to believe that you don't have the resources to establish a publishing com- pany or the ability to smooth talk a distribu- tor into picking up your book, you're gonna be shit out of luck on the distribution side of things. I have the feeling book distribution is just as tough as zine distribution. Again, as more people become involved, DIY book publishing can create an alternate to playing the big business game, much as the zine world has done. It's got all the punk rant- ing you need, without the pretension. Phil admits that he doesn't know much about politics, but he gives his personal opin- ions from a working class bent coupled with his life experiences. At the same time the guy seems to like nothing more than to enjoy his favorite bands while getting drunk. One of those bands includes the almighty Venom, which is maybe part of the reason why I dig his zine that and he hates third wave ska. Feel free to write with any zine questions. I'm always looking for stories on Satanism, the occult, Christians gone bad, etc. Please include the name of the publication and the date it appeared in. I have to say I had a really good time. LA is one of those places I've never really envisioned myself. I mean. I've seen it on TV, but I've never really seen myself stand- ing in front of the Chinese theater where all of the hand prints and stars are in the sidewalk, or driving down Rodeo Drive. I guess I never really thought it existed, that it was a creation of TV and existed only in movies and sit corns. I really enjoyed being a tourist, but I did find one thing very disappointing. First, you have to understand that when I was in high school, I went to New York City with my mom and saw the Statue of Liberty for the first time. OK, if you've never seen the Statue of Liberty in person, your image of it comes from movies like Ghostbusters II where the statue comes to life and walks down the streets of the city, dwarfing all of the skyscrapers. And then you see it in real life we saw it from the 50th floor of the World Trade Center and it's fucking tiny! It's on some little island and it looks like it's 3 stories high! So, needless to say, I had built this great American icon up in my head to be something it wasn't, and my trip to LA killed my image of another Amer- ican landmark, the famed "Hollywood" sign. If you've never seen it, I hate to spoil the surprise but I have to tell you that the sign is pretty, well, small. On the drive back I had a pretty inter- esting conversation with this guy Christo- pher - who isn't native to California either. We talked about how we see the scene in California as being different than pretty much every where else either of us have ever lived. 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I ordered a Subway Trio. Ham, Turkey, roast beef. It was cheap. I also picked up a bag of Baked Lays and a bottle of Diet Pepsi. Road nectar of the Gods. I told her that we were full of that, thank you. We are try- ing to raise money for a dying child's last wish! I could barely afford the sub. Parked in the lot behind the place. I didn't have the keys, so I figured I'd stand around, and wait for Evan and Adam. Who did have them. Strangers talking to me when I don't get enough sleep is almost as bad as people throwing fish at me. He was wearing a warm jacket, jeans, boots, and looked sort of friendly. I hate friendly people at truck stops. Never know when they are gonna kill you. I don't know why, but I said I didn't mind. I guess I was just bored while waiting for Evan and Adam to get their stuff. Punk Rock. I had spent too much time in California with them F. The city? I just want to ask you some simple questions. Because if you are, I already told them inside that I'm out of dough. I'm a Jew. You people scare me. What if you're right and I am going to hell? I haven't packed. Bob then reached into his pocket and pulled out a wallet. He flipped it open and showed me a silver and blue badge. It said "Pennsylvania D. Suddenly he was joined by another friend. He showed me his D. It was purty. I don't know why. Probably because ever since I'd seen that D. My stomach was beginning to rumble. Just say No! The guys showed Evan and Adam their badges. Their faces went white. I just shrugged my shoulders, and they fconwtews both told Bob that they lived in New York, and gave him their Driver's License numbers. I'm not meaning to be pushy, but we have a gig to get to, and we're tired. Uh- huh. We'd like to know if we can have a dog just run around the outside of your van and see if he smells anything. None of us did drugs. He kind of scowled and told me that that was our choice. But he wouldn't tell us what would happen if we said no. I asked Adam and Evan if it was okay that a dog run around the van. They both thought it would be okay, and besides, we knew we didn't have a choice. Suddenly Bob whistles loudly, and a cop car that says "K-9 Unit" pulls up out of fucking no-where. Out of it comes an older, mean cop, in a D. If I want him to, he'll attack, and keep biting you until I tell him to stop. Fucking lunatic. Has to be, with a partner who pisses on three legs. The mean cop with the D. We are not really worried. None of us do drugs. We kinda hoped no one who was in the damn thing left any- thing. If it's more, than, well, Pennsylvania has very good drug laws on the side of the defendant. I did warn everyone never to carry any- thing. The dog ran around the van, sniffing, and found nothing. Maybe the dog's nose is just not ready. I know about you type of people. I halfway expected a camera crew to come out of hiding and tell us we were on "Cops". This was so stupid. The mean cop then gave the dog a rag. The dog bit it and started barking. Then tried to tear up the rag. The dog ran around our van again, then started to hop up and down on the passenger side door. Then it started scratching and bark- ing. Evan, Adam, and I just looked at the D. The dog smells drugs, so we believe you are carrying something. Of course you can say 'no'. The dog continued to bark and scratch up the van. Adam started to bitch about the paint job. The dog is never wrong! He had an eat-shit grin on his face. There was no phone around. That's when I pulled out my cellular. Punk rock. I didn't smile at the dog. He'd bite my mouth off. Adam dialed the phone and got his dad on the line. He explained to him our situation. They talked for quite a while. At two dollars a minute. Then they gave it a rag, and it went nuts! Between a lawyer and his client. Adam continued talking to his Dad, and the cops and dog got more and more antsy. That equipment is fucking heavy. You ever lifted a Marshall? He was playing some sort of bullshit game. Finally Bob gets on the phone and talks to Adam's dad for like fifteen minutes. I eat my sub. I'm hungry. Evan is able to get his coat out of the van after the jacket is searched. He's cold. Adam just stands around. Finally Bob gives Adam back his dad. Adam talks for a few seconds, then says, "Okay, I'll call you back," and hangs up. We gotta let them search the van. He smiles. I look at the other cop. I look at the dog's part- ner. He looks like he's about to come. We are a straight edge band. Like Minor Threat. Or Uniform Choice. Just say no! Adam unlocks the thing, and Bob pulls out our suitcases. The dogs sniffs those first. We believe there is some- thing in the front, so we won't search the back," explains Bob. I hate animals in the van. They smell it up. Then I have to take more showers. He runs into the van and eats my bag of potato chips, that's what he does. The dog barks like crazy, then starts to scratch at the ashtray. The cops take apart the ashtray of the van and look at and in it. The dog is never wrong. And you just wasted over an hour of our time. We have a gig to get to. In Clearfield. We are playing an old prison. Now a club. For the kids. But he's not. You should feed him more. He probably doesn't want to be sued. We want stickers. The dog barks in agreement. Of your band! What are you called again? It's full of stickers. From The Go-Go Rays. From Erie. Who gave them to us the night before. I'll put them on my car. In Prison! As we make our way toward the next gig Evan clears his throat, then speaks. It's Burger King. E mail me at furygeo aol. Evan at parkluck aol. Or you can mail us at P. Got lots of great records this month, and they include bands such as Toilet Boys, John Cougar Concentration Camp who rock my world. Teen Idols Ben Weasel Approved! Whatta month! I hear they are recording a single now. Been touring a lot lately. Thanks to everyone who has helped us out, and thanks Cleveland. What a show. In yellow tights. Girls, he has a huge bulge. I'm not kidding. P also rocked that night, and it was amazing to see Todd puke through his nose! Yeah Baby! And The Beatnick Termites! Those guys are the coolest! Nicest guys I've met in the midwest! Support them, they rule! When we did "Sonic Reduc- er", we stripped naked. Best line of the night came from Matt Army. Punk Rock! With the big noise in mainstream pub- lications about "fanzine revolution" a few years ago, I'm surprised the book deals didn't come sooner. I was hoping Aaron Cometbus would end up publishing a book before the millennium he did have a story excerpted for a photo book called Unheard Music. He's done enough interviews and in-depth stories on the band, so it would only come naturally. I'm sure Chris from Slug and Lettuce could publish an encyclopedia set of books from her photographs alone. Then came the books about fanzines by V. I'm hoping as people's zines begin grow that more people will take the DIY initiative and put together their own books. After col- lecting zines for over 10 years, I get excited at the idea of compiling a "best of" from my favorite zines. I have no idea how to set up perfect binding which is flat, book style spine, versus the folded and stapled spine that nearly every zine uses , printing resources, and most im- portantly, distribution. Incommunicado Press is a San Diego book publisher that has printed books by Nicole Panter, Jimmy Jazz and Bill Brent, along with music resource guides such as Releasing an Independent Record and Book Your Own Tour neither books apply much to the punk scene since most punk resources have been well-documented or can easily found through the usual punk chan- nels. Gary Hustwit, the owner of Incommunicado Press, told me a book distribution is well-organized. This leads me to believe that you don't have the resources to establish a publishing com- pany or the ability to smooth talk a distribu- tor into picking up your book, you're gonna be shit out of luck on the distribution side of things. I have the feeling book distribution is just as tough as zine distribution. Again, as more people become involved, DIY book publishing can create an alternate to playing the big business game, much as the zine world has done. It's got all the punk rant- ing you need, without the pretension. Phil admits that he doesn't know much about politics, but he gives his personal opin- ions from a working class bent coupled with his life experiences. At the same time the guy seems to like nothing more than to enjoy his favorite bands while getting drunk. One of those bands includes the almighty Venom, which is maybe part of the reason why I dig his zine that and he hates third wave ska. Feel free to write with any zine questions. I'm always looking for stories on Satanism, the occult, Christians gone bad, etc. Please include the name of the publication and the date it appeared in. I have to say I had a really good time. LA is one of those places I've never really envisioned myself. I mean. I've seen it on TV, but I've never really seen myself stand- ing in front of the Chinese theater where all of the hand prints and stars are in the sidewalk, or driving down Rodeo Drive. I guess I never really thought it existed, that it was a creation of TV and existed only in movies and sit corns. I really enjoyed being a tourist, but I did find one thing very disappointing. First, you have to understand that when I was in high school, I went to New York City with my mom and saw the Statue of Liberty for the first time. OK, if you've never seen the Statue of Liberty in person, your image of it comes from movies like Ghostbusters II where the statue comes to life and walks down the streets of the city, dwarfing all of the skyscrapers. And then you see it in real life we saw it from the 50th floor of the World Trade Center and it's fucking tiny! It's on some little island and it looks like it's 3 stories high! So, needless to say, I had built this great American icon up in my head to be something it wasn't, and my trip to LA killed my image of another Amer- ican landmark, the famed "Hollywood" sign. If you've never seen it, I hate to spoil the surprise but I have to tell you that the sign is pretty, well, small. On the drive back I had a pretty inter- esting conversation with this guy Christo- pher - who isn't native to California either. We talked about how we see the scene in California as being different than pretty much every where else either of us have ever lived. One of the big problems which he brought up but I heartily agree is that the scene here is so insular. In some ways, that's good, espe- cially if you're new in town. You can go to punk shows and live in a punk house and work at a job with other punks and go to punk stores. You don't have to interact with the rest of the world if you don't want to. What's good about this is that it's reas- suring and validating. It's encouraging to see punk and punks in other ways than besides in bands. It's good to see some utopian in a sense ideals being carried out. But it's not good because there's more to the world than punks, and unfortunately the punks are a great minority. It's easy to fall into a trap, or a cycle or a rut, where all you see and all you think about is punk rock and your own little world. But you leam from interact- ing with others outside of your culture. Just like, if you're white, you learn from interact- ing with others not like yourself. Like you learn perspective. How much do radical pol- itics matter to the average person? Or, how can you make radical politics matter to the average person? The other thing about punk being insu- lar is that I have always liked that punk is about thinking for yourself and being able to back up and defend all of your values and everything you stand for. About not getting what is in your head from your parents or from text books, but from figuring it out on your own, and reevaluating everything that is handed to you on a plate and through television and the culture you see around you every day. Being challenged on every aspect of what you are, every day. So what? Living in San Francisco you don't have to do that. You can have a job where you have tattoos and piercing and where you have fucked up hair and listen to loud music. No one will look at you twice. And you interact in a punk community were every body knows and mouths the words to the same general generic political line and no one really thinks about it. That means you can just sit back and relax your guard. And with that, I must ask myself, why have all of my columns been about "punk rock"? The comments I've just made about the punk rock community make me think I need to be talking about something more "real" and more tangible, but at the same time I know I write and talk about punk as a real culture and community because I want it to be something so tangible. We validate and reify such a thing as punk rock by talking about it and analyzing it, and I guess partici- pating in it, the way we do mainstream cul- ture. These things mean that we need to come up with both a way to make punk important and viable, but also to make it a part of our lives, not to let it consume us. The other punk rock related thing I wanted to mention was scenesters. I've been thinking about what makes a punk rock kid famous, and what makes them different from someone who isn't a scenester, and why peo- ple always want to talk to or about scenesters. And basically I came down to the idea that the reason I talk to "scenesters" is that to be a scenester, this person has done something to give me access to their ideas. Whether they have put out a zine or written a song, I now have some basis on which to start a conversa- tion with them and a point from which to start communicating with them. I think that's a very simple difference and it also makes no distinction between who has better or more valuable ideas, or who is a better or more valuable part of the scene. I've always main- tained that producers and consumers, audi- ence and performer are equally as vital to the livelihood of punk rock. And the good thing about this is that it is easy to make your ideas known, and to make them accessible, and it's up to you the scale which you want to do that. That's one good and valuable difference be- tween punk rock and the mainstream world - you can be heard if you want to. Not, what are you going to do about something that happened between people you do not or nev- er will know, but what are you going to do about rape in your own scene? The issue is not what MRR or HaC does to investigate allega- tions of any sort against a member of the nationwide punk rock community, it is about what you do when allegations are made against someone you know or interact with. It is each of our responsibility to confront mem- bers of our community when they do some- thing fucked up, and it needs to be done in a real and immediate way, by the people whom it most directly affects. These are real people's lives we are talking about here and the dramas shouldn't be played out across the pages of a national magazine by people who don't really know all the facts or the repercussions, and who won't feel any consequences themselves. On the same general topic, a month or two ago we printed a rumor about the band Hot Water Music in Anne R. Key's gossip column, which made a very serious accusa- tion against them, in a somewhat joking mat- ter. It involved one of the members beating up on his girlfriend. Apparently, while on tour, someone came up to them and asked them if this was true, and they've been get- ting some flak since. Now, not only would I never believe anything I read in the gossip column which has about as much veracity as anything printed in an April issue , I have talked to them about this and sincerely be- lieve it to be only a rumor. However, these kinds of "rumors" or accusations can be so damaging, and I wanted to give them a chance to defend themselves. You can write them at NW 13th St , Gainesville, FL if you want their side of the story on how and why this rumor began. As a general rule, before you believe something so serious about a person or a band, make sure you check with the source, and remember innocent until prov- en guilty. I have to say he was pretty much the highlight of both of the shows I attended. Quick, to the point, and very passionate, his political rants were concise and hit hard. My favorite of his poems starts "I hate my job, but I still go every day, I hate the cops but I still do what they say. I thought it was an awesome confrontation to all of the political type punks who talk the talk but don't really apply what they're saying to their everyday lives. Of course there are many contradictions about living within our "sys- tem" and our society, but these are things which need to be criticized and justified. Shit, if you need to talk Earlier this month about it, write me- I'll listen. Alright, I'll step lots of twanging and distortion, and the em- one of our hard disks crashed and took my down off my soapbox, now, and do some phasis on 'artsy'. They do get vicious at times, email program with it. I always learn things demo reviews. At times they make me think of York, NY Very poppy punk with cool unanswered messages, my saved messages, decent production. They're just a bit and my address book, so I am starting from luma, C A So, if you wrote me and I haven't the shit! Blazing, intense, old style Italian them appealing anyway. My only Brooklyn, NY And that would be it for wrote me about the Braid show at Punks With complaint is that there's not enough songs! My address is jenangel mind songs, good production. Vicious, crusty vocals, thick guitar, drum machine, samples. Pretty cool. Gotta love it! Pretty interesting. Hello, my name is Dave Emory, and it's this other crap? We're really supposed to be The male sounds just like Ray Cappo at times, my pleasure and privilege to present to you above this weak ass bullshit. Is this a result of 4 songs, decent production. Lee, the author of the the jock in punk explosion of '95? Give me a Portland, OR Yeah, 1 know, there's always been some solid punk. That's all there is to it. Everyone reemergence of Fascism, published in hard- ofthis stuff happening, but I don't know why. Guys- control your fucking dicks. It's that Different songs made me think of different Martin, welcome back to our airwaves, simple. Be cool. It's not that hard. Before the break, we were talking about want to do something. And as for you girls- own sound. What a surprise- they're from the incorporation of Third Reich spies into fucking think! Try not to get in a vulnerable Canada. Canada just seems to have the best the Western intelligence apparatus. We were position. Get to know someone pretty well underground bands. Never listen to great, funny, snotty hardcore, catchy and fast, tually working for a German geopolitical people's words, watch them. See how they as it should be. We talked about the Odessa Organi- act. A manipulative person can do something Queen St. I'm telling you, some cool, under- ship. In this context we were discussing an determine the way people treat you. That's a ground record label needs to pick these guys American representative of the Odessa Orga- simple fact. If I have a purple mohawk and up. Very intense, interesting, and original nization, and also an American operative of bondage gear, and leave my house. And we service, a fellow named H. Keith Thompson, arrested. It's not right. It's not fair. But it's the can't forget the awesome female vocals. These He worked directly with an American Fascist truth. But it's the roll, not a lot stands out, but pretty good stuff Soviets, as well as working in a Nazi and anti- truth, and you should expect it. I don't con- all the same. Neither was pro-Com- done it and I definitely don't think you are Howell St. Solid tunes with a decent dose of ML: Yes, this is true, and this takes on a very 5 rednecks for dressing punk , but I do expect originality- they kind of make me think of the vivid form in the case of Francis Parker Y ock- it. Carry some mace. Do something, man. Yockey, Also, I know that it's not just girls who get little thrashier. Keith Thompson, was actual- raped, and not just guys who do the raping, Frances St. He started working with them after the lately, so I thought I'd comment. Oh, yeah, violent thrash with a razor-edged distortion Prague show trials in late There's got to be some- production. Here you have another example of a Nazi working directly with Eastern European intelligence agencies, even though he was an ardent anti-Commu- nist. He did so, again, because he felt the geopolitical imperative of a German-Russian alliance was so overwhelming that he just sort-of had to overlook and overcome the fact that there was this ideological problem, i. Communism, in the Soviet Union. So accord- ing to H. Keith Thompson, who was Parker Yockey's close friend, Yockey admitted to Thompson that he was doing this, and this was all well and good for Thompson and his neo-Nazi circle in New York City where he was based during the early fifties. One of the things that we should discuss is how people like Francis Parker Yockey have left a legacy very much with us. Yockey was one of the key influences on Willis Carto and the Liberty Lobby. Yes, what happened is Yockey was seek- ing to elude Federal agents in the U. They were on his trail, there's no question they were seeking to find him. Well, Yockey made a sort of stupid error, with getting discovered and arrested in Oakland, CA in , and he was put in jail for eleven days in the San Francisco County Jail, and then he committed suicide in prison. Some- how he was given a cyanide tablet or some- thing that he munched on, and he died. Well, the last person from the outside to see Yockey in prison, besides his lawyer, was a rather obscure figure at the time named Willis Car- to, who today is behind the Liberty Lobby, which is a very well-developed anti-Semitic organization. Some people might describe it as a neo-Nazi group, but I think, from looking at its newspaper The Spotlight , you could def- initely say it dfinitely has sympathies for what you could correctly call Nazi and Fas- cist movements. I think Carto's politics are aptly summed up by some letters he had written to one of his associates that were discovered by someone who was working for the Liberty Lobby, who thought that Carto was basically just a strong. Right-wing con- servative, but then he discovered these let- ters, this Liberty Lobby employee, that indi- cate clearly Carto's pro-Nazi sympathies. These letters, and I'm paraphrasing, basically are saying that Hitler losing the war was the worst thing, and the blame has to go to the Jews, and these letters were eventually pub- lished by Drew Pearson, the noted syndicat- ed columnist, in the late s. So Carto is head of the Liberty Lobby these days, which is very tight with the militia movement in the United States, which has spun-off many dif- ferent permutations, including the Institute for Historical Review IHR — this is another Liberty Lobby project, an organization that claims the Holocaust never happened, and so forth and so on, and the great irony here is that Yockey is embraced by Carto as a patron saint for the Liberty Lobby after he commit- ted suicide in jail. So you could say that the patron saint for the Holocaust denial move- ment in the United States is a guy who was working for Czech intelligence, a Communist intelligence agency. Of course, Carto won't admit that, that would be very embarrassing for him, but that's the truth. And we should also note that elements associated with the 'old guard' from the Third Reich have, in a sense, spawned a new gener- ation. Yes, the Institute for Historical Review holds these meetings every year, every other year, at least they had been for a while, and they bring speakers, and they get together, and they sort of try to pretend that they're scholars objectively debating questions of historical relevance, particularly of the era in question, WWII and the Holocaust. What they really are is neo-Nazis and Holocaust deniers who are trying to inject their perspec- tive into the public debate as if it was some- how a legitimate historical perspective. Eastern-oriented Nazi, to come and address their group in And he did — he came and talked about his role during the anti-Hitler coup attempt in July , and he met with people there — it was the only time he had ever come to the United States, and what was amazing is you can tell about the kind of people the United States government has not let into the country, because of the Smith act and so forth, because of Commu- nism, and here's a guy, a Nazi, well-known internationally. Hitler's bodyguard, who had these open pro-Soviet, not pro-Communist but pro-Soviet sentiments in terms of his Ger- man-Russian alliance, is articulating very audibly, right until the present day, because Remer's still alive, and yet still, he was al- lowed into the country somehow. Getting back to your point, though about how the 'old guard' still had to mentor a new generation, well, that's exactly what happened. An important neo- Nazi organization internationally now, it hosts the commemoration for Franco's death every year in Spain that go on in November, and so it's very active, and this is what Skorzeny helped spawn. On the other side, you look at someone like Remer, who was directly in- volved in mentoring this latest generation of neo-Nazi leaders who were very instrumen- tal in the wave of neo-Nazi violence that gripped Germany after reunification in So there's direct continuity between the 'old guard' and the new generation. This is some- thing I try to draw very specifically in the book, and I think one of the really important reasons to do this is not simply for the sake of telling the story as to what happened, but because in this day and age, some of the Fascist leaders who are making a lot of head- way with mass-based political parties in Eu- rope, such as Jorg Haider in Austria or Le Pen in France, one of the techniques that they use to advance their objectives is to not claim that Nazis are Fascists, so it's very important for them to go back there in history, and show exactly how in fact they came right out of this Fascist milieu, and while they may claim to be just Right-wing populists these days, it's real- ly a ruse; they're neo-Fascists posing as pop- ulists DE: Perhaps we'll get a chance to talk about some of the connections of M. Le Pen and Heider a little later. Two of the main names in European neo-Fascism that evolved in a sense ideologically from Otto Ernst Remer were two of the acquaintances Michael Kiihnen and Abel Althans. Perhaps we'll get a chance to talk about the two of them later as well. Martin, after the Cold War, some of the seeds that I guess could be thought of as having been sown would be failure of denazification in part at least as a result of the see-saw policy that the Third Reich elements were pursuing, which we discussed in the first half of our interview, a lot of those seeds began to sprout anew. After reunification, Germany began to exhibit some disturbing signs of its old self. First of all we'll go back to the border expan- sion and the Oder-Neisse Line. Well, we should point out that in a German Constitution Court ruled that Ger- many's borders, which included part of what's now Poland and other countries, are the legitimate, legal borders for Germany, and that ruling stands today, even though chances are Helmut Kohl and the German government have after some dithering and equivocation acknowledged that the Oder- Neisse Line that's been the Oder-Neisse Riv- er that separates what is now Poland from what is now the eastern border of Germany. Even though that the German government, at least part of the German government, official- ly recognizes that as the border, it still stands that institutionally another part of the gov- ernment still does not recognize this border, and that's really peculiar, it's very odd: One of the primary elements in the Ger- SsMMjgm man revanchism and a key influence on Kohl are the Bund Der Vertriebenen who are thought of as a connecting link from the Third Reich past to the expansionist present ML: Yes, the Bund Der Vertriebenen is the association of expellees that were of German nationality, German ethnicity, that were ex- pelled from neighboring areas of Sudeten- land and what was Czechoslovakia, what is now the Czech Republic and parts of Poland and so forth. After WWII, as it was ending, there was a strong reaction against Germans, and innocent people were hurt in this, inno- cent Germans, but eventually many people were killed, and many people were forced to move from places they had been living, and they moved across the border, mainly into western Germany. There are many different expel- lee organizations, several of them have been founded by former SS members, and these still exist today. They get a lot of money from the German government, even though some of these organizations use that money to print Holocaust-denial literature, really revanchist and dyspeptic kind of extremist rhetoric in their publications, and some of these Bund Der Vertriebenen organizations, actually funded by the German government today, work with neo-Nazi groups in Germany. What's going on here? Well, I've talked to U. State Department people about this, and I said, "What's going on, why is so much money being given to these groups? How do you interpret this? Give them some money, let them do their thing, but in the end they'll make the policies that Chancellor Kohl wants to make. With regard to German foreign policy in the post-Cold War period, you discuss a Ger- man role in the break-up of both the Yugoslav Federation and Czechoslovakia. Well the Yugoslav Federation, that situation, is fairly well known. It's known even that U. What's less well-known is that the German government's role in desta- bilizing Czechoslovakia, and supporting the rise of the Slavic separatists and nationalists, in particular the strong-man they made chair, the head of the government for awhile, and this support was channeled through a foun- dation called the Hans-Seidl Stiftung, which is essentially the foundation run by the Chris- tian Social Union, another political party in Germany, located in Bavaria, and it's essen- tially the sister party for the Christian Demo- cratic Union. They work hand-in-hand, they're part of the same coalition govern- ment; the Christian Social Union is looked upon as being a shade more conservative than the CDU as a whole, but this foundation is explicitly associated with the CSU, the Chris- tian Social Union, that was involved in foster- ing the rise of the Slavic separatist movement, which eventually culminated in the break-up of Czechoslovakia. I should add one other point: Now, what is a German government-connected organization doing supporting this kind of political ideology in this day and age? You've gotta ask yourself some serious questions about that. We should mention that the Axis nations, in addition to Germany — Japan, and Italy — also involved Rumania under the Fascist Iron Guard, Hungary under the Fascist Iron Cross, Bulgaria under the National Front, and also Slovakia was broken off from Czechoslova- kia and became an independent collabora- tionist government under Father Josef Tiso, and Croatia also became a satellite state of Germany, and was broken off temporarily from Yugoslavia, so when the German geo- politics vis-a-vis what used to be Czechoslo- vakia and Yugoslavia were seen to a certain extent a recapitulation of the Hitler period. In a sense, you do. You see the same kind of borders are forming. I think in Croatia, it's probably not too much of an exaggeration to say that if there's one country in the world where you have a Fascist government, it's Croatia today. There's no question that they glorify the Fascist past, and they're resurrect- ing that kind of sensibility, and it's certainly not a democratic country, even though it had won support from the United States for awhile during the conflict with Serbia, and had heavy military support from the German govern- ment, illegally, because the arms shipments which the Germans were providing, which included MIG fighter jets, and so forth, this is something that was a contradiction of the international agreements at the time. So you do see that in Eastern Europe there is that tendency, or that sort of come-back, where you have very serious economic conditions and social conditions, where according to UNICEF reports that the quality of life is far worse than what it was during the Commu- nist period, and I'm not saying that to advo- cate Communist ideas, just that this is the reality of the whiplash transition from Com- munism to capitalism has been very difficult for countries in Eastern Europe. While it's not bound to happen that a lot of these countries are likely to form Fascist governments, it is very ripe for a very nasty reaction, should the situation not improve in the future. And some of the same Ustase Fascist elements have been making a comeback in Croatia under Tutjman, as you note. With regard to a disturbing return to some ele- ments of the past on the part of Germany, and also making a transition to one of the most illuminating of the many illuminating ele- ments of your book, the anti-immigrant pol- icy that was enunciated, perhaps initially by neo-Nazi German elements, and then was taken on wholeheartedly by Helmut Kohl, and utilized very effectively in German poli- tics, highlights to a certain extent a parallel, and perhaps that's the wrong choice of terms, but a coincidence of policy between the Ger- man neo-Nazi element, those people like Kiihnen and Althans and others, and the policies by the so-called mainstream Helmut Kohl-CDU-CSU, both in regard to anti-immi- grant sentiment and policy, and also with regard to German expansionism. I think there are these parallels and con- tinuities, and it is significant, and this is not to say that the German government is a Nazi government or something like that, or that they're pro-Nazi, it's not true, but the policies of the German government have had an im- pact that has actually helped facilitate neo- Nazism in that country, even though that might not be the government officials' prime intention, or anything like that. Instead what happened is that they had to raise taxes, and West Germans were very bitter because they had to foot the bill, a very expensive bill, for reunification, and all that sort-of policy was screwing up. They realized they had the perfect scapegoat; rather than admit that their policy screwed up, and that they were responsible for these problems, they said "No, immigrants are here, they're to blame, the foreigners are to blame. The neo-Nazis themselves, or the young Na- zis, were actually brutalizing them in the streets physically, and actually killing peo- ple, while at the same time this rhetoric, very vitriolic, you could almost say Fascist type rhetoric, from German officials is being spout- ed day-in and day-out in the government forums and in the media. In effect, this is encouraging these young Nazis to go out and brutalize and kill people, because when you go and scapegoat someone, and say this for- eigner is the cause of your problems, this immigrant is the cause of your problems, this asylum-seeker is, or this African, or this Jew, whatever it might be, sooner or later some- body's going to get it into their head that if that's the cause of the problem, let's kill them! And that's basically how the young Nazis have reacted, so the anti-immigrant politics in Germany is very unfortunate and it's le- thal, you might say. Gunther Grasse, the great German novelist has gone so far as to describe members of Chancellor Kohl's cabinet as white-collar skinheads because they're the ones who are really encouraging the young Nazis to go and undertake these attacks by the kind of vitriol they spout. People, new Nazi leaders, such as the aforementioned Michael Kiihnen and also Bela Althans, have been very active behind what used to be called the Iron Curtain not only in areas of East Germany, but also in parts of Poland, and what used to be the Soviet Union, areas like the Ukraine, and they have been promoting this German-Russian, or perhaps in some cases this German-Ukra- nian geopolitical alliance that we've discussed periodically throughout the interview at the same time the German army is switching to a potential offensive status, it's the German Defense Minister, Klaus Naumann, is mak- ing some very interesting statements about rolling back the social ethic to pre-1 status, and the German heavy industry and German foreign policy are working along parallel lines by buying up strategic heavy industry, heavy communications, media, and other aspects of the Eastern European economy, which gives them tremendous political leverage. I realize that that's a tall order in just a few more minutes, but I wonder if you could touch on that for us. Well, you know Germany is a country very much in play now, and scholars, aca- demics, journalists seem to be of two-minds about Germany. Then there's sort-of the pessimists who say "No, No, they're just waiting for the Fourth Reich to emerge. I think that when you look at the Ger- man military, and what happens after unifi- cation, things changed, and there was a very explicit policy shift, whereas Germany was a pacifist-oriented country because of the lega- cy of the Third Reich, now it shifted under the command of General Klaus Naumann so as to be more offense-oriented, and not only that, but to find ideologically and spiritually, if you will, some kind of common ground with their military forefathers, and this in Germany, this is all part of the attempt to be like a "normal" country. Germany has to be normal again; normal countries relate to past generations in their military in a positive way, and Germany has to find a way to do that too. They go on so much trying to be normal, trying to be normal, and that's not normal, to be trying to be normal. So there's something strange going on here. As in other sectors of West German society, the military itself was never really denazified, there was a carry-over in a very significant way; but you have to also keep in mind that after reunifica- tion, the actual number of people in the mil- itary, even though the Western military ab- sorbed the East German, was actually cut, it's still the biggest military in Europe, but there's some very disturbing signs, because of what happened in Croatia, of involvement in at least some "peace-keeping" chores or involve- ment of German soldiers. But this is a break- through, not only a psychological threshold is being crossed, but German soldiers are again active in zones of combat, but a very significant political Europe threshold crossed, and what this portends for the future no one really knows for sure. They're not saying this like a Hitlerian military adventure, but a foreign policy that's much more oriented to- ward the East, and I wouldn't be surprised if that happens, it's what some people expect, that it's almost inevitable that it will happen in Germany. And when Schauble goes around talking about stuff like that, he's been chosen as the heir-apparent by Kohl, and if he gets in, I think it's going to be a very sober experience for a lot of people around the world. Marty, we've only got about two minutes left, perhaps a little bit less. Something I'd like to get into at greater length in a future inter- view, and one of the vitally important points you make in your book, and that is the main- streaming of what had been relatively mar- ginalized political views, and Fascist views at that. We were talking about anti-immigrant sentiment and policy exploited by and exe- cuted by Helmut Kohl in Germany, in paral- lel with the ideas advanced by so-called neo- Nazi elements. Anti-immigrant status: Yes, it's certainly nothing unique to Ger- many, the kind of political dynamic where the mainstream interacts with the extreme Right in ways that can give some strength to the extreme Right; that's not just unique to Germany. This is a very significant situation. Le Front National, the Fascist party, even though they may not get their people in office in a lot of places, they do control some city govern- ments and town governments around France. Even though they may not get into the nation- al parliament to a significant degree, they still are able to exert a tremendous influence on the political debate, and a large part of Le Pen's policies, particularly around immigra- tion and, other matters that have been adopt- ed by the government, even though he's not formally part of it. So the Fascists win even when they're losing, and we should realize this is not simply a matter of the Fascists being in government pushing the buttons and power, but the influence can be trans- ferred in significant ways even when they're not in power formally. And it's similar to power dynamic in the United States, like pulling Clinton to the right — I don't know what his real politics are, President Clinton, but certainly policies around affirmative ac- tion, immigration, so forth, things that were seen as sort of beyond the panel issues, some- thing that Reagan or even Nixon wouldn't dare touch these things because they were considered so off-the-wall and extreme Right, they become the primary mainstream think- ing in a current situation, Clinton's right there moving along, going with the flow, and show- ing very little civic courage, which seems to be in short supply among political leaders all around the world. And we will take the issue of the main- streaming of previously marginalized Fascist views and many of the other important points that we have not had a chance to discuss here in our next interview. For Martin Lee, this is Dave Emory. Martin Lee, by the way, is the author of, once again. The Beast Reazvakens, just released in hardcover by Little Brown and company. Contact Spitfire regarding Dave Emo- ry's weekly radio program. I hate cops. All cops. I've called the police only on very rare occasions. A jock neighbor of mine in another city liked to beat his live-in girlfriend black and blue, fights that frequently spilled out into our apartment complex's courtyard. He was shameless about his drunken abuse and no one else in the complex was willing to do shit, so I called the cops during a particular- ly brutal episode to get him to stop and maybe to protect her. While driving down the street, I once witnessed this huge guy — -6 foot 6 and pounds if he was an ounce — wailing on a small child on the sidewalk. I parked, got out of my car, and tried to provoke the guy to leave the kid alone by yelling "hey asshole, pick on someone your own size. As a rule though, I don't call the cops no matter how serious the problem. Cops are trouble. Cops cause trouble, much more trouble than they solve by intervening now and again in domes- tic disputes. To my way of thinking, the only good cop is a dead cop. Flash back to the Gulf War. I lived in San Diego at the time, a military town that had a surprisingly strong anti-mili- tarist response to the armed buildup prior to the lightning war. That first candlelit night march and rally marshalled tens of thousands of concerned folks, and subsequent events were almost as impressive. They were also unruly as hell. The SD peace community called and organized these mass events, and then tried to control them with nonviolent peace keepers. Peace police is what they were. The marches were so huge that they took whatever street they damn well pleased, whether or not the organizers had permits for the route. One march kept tramping up and down Broadway, keeping the city's main downtown thoroughfare shut down for close to an hour. The real cops didn't contest these more or less spontaneous deviations from of- ficially sanctioned procedures, and the peace cops were more than happy to go along for the ride. It's when folks stepped entirely outside the staid, approved march-and-rally format that trouble started. A couple hundred kids took off from one of the marches and ran amok through Horton Plaza, the showcase maze-like shopping mall in downtown San Diego that symbolized the city's gentrifying redevelopment program. They didn't do much vandalism but they sure as hell freaked the Plaza's security and the SDPD as well as the peace movement's cops. Shadow painters split off from another march and played tag with the real cops as they ran around town chalking body silhouettes on pavement, sidewalks and buildings to repre- sent what a nuclear blast can do to people. And when a small group of UCSD students at- tempted to do some well-mannered civil dis- obedience, they ran afoul of the peace police. It was at one of the last rallies before the beginning of the American-led military blitz- krieg, held in the San Diego Federal building plaza. After interminable hours of turgid speeches, the UCSD kids walked as a group over to the Federal building's main entrance with the intent of sitting down and blocking it. They were stopped, not by the real cops, but by the rally's peace monitors who told them they couldn't go ahead with their CD. Those students wanted to commit a non- violent act in the proud tradition of Gandhi and Martin Luther King, and the proper paci- fist types of the official peace rally refused to let them! The students were not to be denied how- ever. They walked out of the demonstration onto Broadway and sat down, blocking part of the street's traffic in one direction. Motorcycle cops responded quickly, but so did the other demonstrators. A chanting militant mob soon encircled the student CDers as the police milled around this trouble spot, jockeying for posi- tion in anticipation of arresting the whole lot of us. Enter those pesky peace police. The peace monitors circulated among the crowd surrounding the UCSD kids and told us to get back on the sidewalk with the rest of the demonstration. The students want- ed to get arrested for their civil disobedience and the cops wanted to arrest them, so would we please clear the area so that the police could do their job. I can imagine those asswipe peace cops in Nazi Germany. We wanted nothing to do with making the SDPD's job easy, quick or efficient to accomplish. The real cops bristled and threatened when we declined to cooperate. The peace police, having failed to give the cops what they wanted and realizing that the situation was becoming volatile, decided to "protect" us — CDers and uncivilly disobedient demonstra- tors alike — by forming a human chain of peace keepers around our independent protests. Goddamn meddling control freaks! Then I was unarrested. I got a little too close to that circle of peace cops holding hands and a real cop, taunted and provoked by my attitude reached through to grab me, hoping to drag me out and arrest me. A friend in the crowd , held onto me and pulled the other way until I was free of the policeman's grasp, a tug-of- war across "neutral" peace cop lines. The street confrontation lasted for perhaps another hour. Peace cops negotiated with real cops, but we refused to listen to either, holding our ground. The SDPD did manage to cleverly dif- fuse the situation. The UCSD students could sit in the street and we could stand around them for as long as we wanted because the police did not intend to throw anybody in jail. The cops would set up police barricades around us and redirect traf- fic but otherwise they would leave us alone, nullifying any disruptive effect we might have. And of course, if we left to eat or take a shit, we couldn't return. This disappointed the student CDers. They met among themselves and de- cided to stop their nonviolent action, ending the confrontation as well. The San Diego peace movement behaved as if they owned the demonstration simply because they had obtained police permits and distributed leaflets for an event with date, time and place under their sponsorship. Complete bullshit of course. No group or coalition no matter how broad can claim to own or control the popular response to something on the scale of the US's military incursion in the Per- sian Gulf. At most they could have claimed: If you don't agree, you're on your own. I wrote up these criticisms at the time in a broadside that also described the numerous independent, autonomous actions that broke away from the officially sanctioned peace dem- onstrations. It was an open letter to the peace movement under the title " We Cannot Be Con- trolled! The imme- diate response was that we, those of us who had stood around the CDer's in the street, had also prevented the students from carrying out their civil disobedience. Nonsense, since they were engaged in their nonviolent action when we first gathered around them. Had the real police made their move some of us would have joined the sit-in and taken our lumps, but most of us would have scampered back to the sidewalk's crowded safety. If anything we indirectly prevented the students from getting arrested, which was their intent after all. But we contributed far less to this than did the peace movement's cops when they surround- ed all of us "for our own protection. The cops looked over the situation — students nonviolently sitting in the streets, a mob of not-so-peaceful supporters surround- ing them refusing to disperse, a line of peace monitors holding hands around this street occupation, thousands of anti-war demonstra- tors still on the sidewalks — and decided dis- cretion was the better part of valor under the circumstances. In turn their brilliant ploy, to let us all stay in the street for as long as we wanted, took the wind out of the sails of the student protesters; the confrontation's focal point. Ultimately though the civilly disobedi- ent students had no more claim to ownership or control of that day's events than did the peace movement and its peace cops. We cannot be controlled. I heard that things went better, and worse in the Bay Area; my present home. Folks from Prairie Fire and the RCP as well as an alliance of Third World students, and numerous anar- chists, punks and ultraleftists engaged in vio- lent anti-war street demonstrations, organiz- ing successful mass blockades of the Bay Bridge. These mass breakaways from the es- tablished peace movement and their "demon- strations-as-usual" prompted some peace po- lice to turn snitch and point out rioters to the real police for arrest. As I said, whatever kind of cop, the only good one is a dead one. There I go again, slagging another part of the already beleaguered, besieged and be- wildered American Left. To be fair, I don't put the peace movement in the same wretched category as social democracy and Leninism. I take down some dubious Leninist shit below. As for the peace movement, I do think that it often suffers from the same misconception of itself as does the general public. Both tend to equate the peace movement with the anti-war movement. They simply are not the same. 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The enthusiasm that emitted from each page you can still feel now. There really did seem like a worldwide community of punks existing in one zine! Letters columns were huge. Arguments abounded, together with constructive dialogue too. There are exceptions, but the majority, I feel, write horrendous drivel. Articles are too few and far between. MRR too seems to have a colder feel to it with the total use of computerized graphics and layouts. Inter- views, too, were asking serious questions, wanting to know more about a band than what they had for breakfast on tour or whether their last EP was on coloured vinyl or not!! Do we need to know this!! Are these things really interesting, or just a waste of paper? No words over super- imposed photos so you can hardly read them, or words that were stretched and contorted. I hate criticizing MRR, as, to me, it has been a source of inspiration and still is at times. This does not mean, however, that MRR should be exempt from criticism. As long as it is constructive and provides a valid point then criticism should be a welcome concept - for anybody! MRR cannot turn the clock backto yesteryear but MRR can still be aforum, and to some, an inspiration, in motivating people and raising issues. I definitely feel MRR should scale itself down and do away with some of the columnists. Band interviews should be interesting! There is nothing worse than reading tedious interviews! If no good band interviews are sent in, why publish crap ones? It is up to others, people such as you reading this, to act and write in interesting articles, interviews, scene reports, artwork, cartoons, whatever. Maybe complacency has helped in making MRR appear less interesting. It should not be taken for granted that MRR will always be great It is up to us. Be a part of the scene and not just part of the scenery! Diversity, co-operation not competition, strength. You and I both know that this is not true. However, I can shout myself hoarse about how the content of MRR relies on what comes in the mail to us, and still not get a single thing. I am glad you are making these observations and criticisms, but start making some contributions to the magazine in the form of interviews and articles and help make it live up to your expectations. Steve and Trev, I think MRR still serves a great function, and, if anything, is somewhat taken for granted because of its bedrock regularity. But I think our music review section is by far and away the best going for the areas of music that we cover, both in terms of completeness and in generally savvy reviewers. Again, the best selection of columnists of any zine around. I do think that if MRR ceases, this scene will sorely miss a resource that only comes along once a generation at best , one that not only serves its function as an amazing monthly resouce of communication, but one that goes beyond that function to constructive community activism and in putting its money where its mouth is. Lee never mentioned the Skrewdriver song in his review of the NYC oi! I still feel that the apolitical trend in oi! We have to draw the line. Peace and Revolution, J. Walker jewalker mail. Rich- ard J. Makin states that a man in plainclothes, who unbeknownst to him was a police officer, was pushing a person who was attempting to leave the scene of a disturbance. Makin called this to the attention of a uniformed officer, who instead of responding to the apparent assault, threatened Rev. Makin with arrest, and further threatened criminal charges when the Rev. Clearly, there are police officers who abuse their power, violate civil liberties, and act in a manner befitting only of belligerent hog-like creatures. I think that few reading this zine would disagree with that characterization. However, what is important to acknowledge is that not all, not even most police officers, are like this, in fact there are some, albeit too few, that maintain a high degree of professionalism, treat everyone with respect, and honestly do care about you - yes even YOU. The incident that Rev. Makin de- scribes is an outrage to the latter category of police officers. I would encourage Rev. Makin and everyone else who has an encounter with the police in which they think that they were treated inappropriately, to file a complaint with the Internal Affairs Division of the Police Department. Contrary to popular belief, in most modern agencies including Boston such a complaint will not fall on deaf ears. The incident will be investigated, the officers involved will be questioned, and if sustained, disciplinary action will be taken against them. Even if the officers are exonerated, having gone through the internal Affairs pro- cess will likely deter the officers from acting as carelessly in the future. If the issue is still not resolved to your satisfaction, by all means contact City Hall, the ACLU, the media, whatever it lawfully takes to satisfy you. To a truly caring and hard working cop, this will mean a lot, and inspire them to continue their ways. We all deserve to be treated as human beings first, beyond our chosen profession or subcultural affiliations. Rick rosberg lynx. Secondly, it is naive to think that police review commissions or police internal investigation units will somehow lead to justice in any given case. In fact, quite the opposite is tme— generally speaking, as we have seen with countless high profile police abuse cases in the last few years, the cops generally walk or at worst are given a slap on the hand. It is quite rare when severe actions are taken by committees or juries against police abuse. Tim Hey guys, I just wanted to drop this note in response to the Those Unknown interview in the December issue. I thought the inter- view was great and I think Bill and the guys and Araena have a lot of valuable things to say. I'm glad they had a chance to step up to the mic through your mag. My point of interest is the Boston show that is mentioned on the third page of the interview. I got the impression that they had been screwed around before. Finally, I was able to con- vince them to come. The show was great! I have to say, Those Unknown stole the show. The kids have been begging me to get them up here again ever since May 3rd. This is blown way out of proportion. There was one clown who was running his mouth outside the club and was quickly silenced without ever confronting the band with his igno- rance. They had a better reaction than any band I have ever seen in Boston. But not mentioned in the interview was the other billing that read: This was billed on all of the 2, fliers I distributed. While this whole issue only covered two short questions in the interview I felt l had to write for several reasons. The first is that I booked Those Unknown for a follow up show on July 12th that they canceled shortly before the date. While we sadly have just lost the Rat, we have probably the best scene in the country. Hell, the Ducky Boys just head- lined a show to kids on November 8 and Showcase Showdown played to even more than that the week before. No band should have any doubts about penciling in Boston as the most important date on their tour. Let me note that Anti-Flag, the Unseen, and the Pinkerton Thugs — all bands of a left-of-the- mark leaning— are some of the most popular draws here. At any rate, let me thank you again for the Those Unknown interview. Bill or Araena, get in touch! You have my number or get it through GMM. I own a small record shop in Or- lando, Florida that puts on live shows from time to time. They have a decent space but their landlord wants a grand a month. Some months ago they were scheduled to play at my record shop. Unfortu- nately prior to their set someone stood on my sink all the bands sign the bathroom and knocked it out of the wall resulting in a flooded store. Fortunately I only have ugly astro turf for carpet so nothing got ruined. As it turned out, the person that stood on the sink was traveling with Operation Cliff Clavin. I am sure that night ' was less than friendly because I had a busted pipe flooding the store and we could not get the water turned off. The reason I am writing this letter is because Operation Cliff Clavin, even though they were on tour, did not ask for a dime in payment that night. Nobody made money that night but by not taking any money Operation Cliff Clavin lost money. In some regards it was the only decent thing for them to do since they were indirectly responsible for the damage — but; in other senses, they were on the road and needed money also. Mills Ave Orlando, Florida http: This established a social security blanket to finance unemployment insurance. The Wagner Act did help establish a National Labor Relations Board which allowed collective bargaining rights of employees. Only after the passage of the Wagner Act were changes actually achieved by the unions. The NRA was suppose to impose certain indus- trial codes to promote honest business. Companies that supported the NRA were to honor a minimum wage, allow labor unions and collective bargaining, 8 hour work day, provide work benefits and the sort. As Americans, in the Depression, it was patriotic to support products and shops with the NRA logo, a blue eagle. Supporting the NRA supported your friends, the economy, the government, America and yourself and family. The Supreme Court eventually declared this act unconstitutional. These changes in industrial workplaces were not a result of labor unions kicking ass, but a result of the Great Depression which was the result of frivolous spending, resentment, and war. The US government, under Presi- dent Roosevelt, saw that there was a need to change the present system. People were starving in the streets during the depression. There was an unprecedented 15 to 17 million people unemployed with no hope for a future. Changes in the system were required to give hope to people during the time to survive and a hope that their children would survive and prosper. Another topic is the UPS strike. I have a friend that works for UPS and participated in the famed strike that Nick looks so highly upon. My friend continuously com- plains that they still have not received their raise. Now that to me does not sound like sticking it to the man. They usually irritate me, but I think that this is actually a good thing. He provokes a great deal of thought and response of the readers of MRR. Thank you for your time. Sincerely yours, Matt 0. I am looking for Spanish and French penpals to communicate in French and Spanish. Write for a free copy. Roosevelt took the steps that he mmmu felt would preserve capi- talism, even if it was dis- agreeable to the short term interests of the rul- ing class. Plus , whatever gains labor made even after said legislation was passed were usually very roughly earned. Also , it is no coinci- dence that the overall standard of living for regular working people has declined parallel to the decline of power of organized labor over the last 30 years. By the way, I asked the UPS driver who delivers to where I work about the delay in receiving benefits from the strike settlement and he said it has to do with company shenanigans and some sort of dispute with the Pennsylva- nia locals , and he does not hold the union responsible for that at all. Tim MattO. Back to the history books for you. By the time FDR was elected in during the Great Depression there were strong Communist-led un- employed movements in many cities as well as a growing working class militancy. Only the NRA covered industrial policy- allowing capital to monopolistically limit production and fix prices in exchange for setting minimum hours and pay, legalizing collective bargaining, etc. The year witnessed widespread working class un- rest expressed in mass strikes, much of it eventually directed toward rank-and file labor union organizing, in part because the government was unable to enforce the NRA. Longshoremen tied up shipping on the West Coast in spring and summer of with a rank-and-file insurrec- tion, catalyzing the San Francisco general strike from July 16 through 19, after police killed 3 workers and wounded 1 15 others. The general strike called out some , workers and paralyzed the city. The powers-that - be assembled special police and 4, National Guard to quell the general strike, forcing the longshore- men to settle. A crowd of 10, angry striking workers held 1, strikebreakers in the Toledo, Ohio Auto-Lite parts plant in May until machine gun toting National Guard broke their blockade, killing 2 and wounding The Teamsters under Trotskyist leadership won three succes- sive, bloody stikes in Minneapolis in summer Tex- tile workers went out on an East Coast general strike as well in 1 ; , in the south and , nationwide by September In all, a million and half workers struck in different industries in in what amounted to a year of violent class warfare. The bourgeois press was clear as to what they thought about the rebellious workers of The WPA which I employed people in public works, the passage of the Wagner I Act guaranteeing workers union recognition and collective [ bargaining, the creation of the NLRB to arbitrate disputes l between workers and owners, the establishment of unem - 1 ployment insurance and social security all occurred in Working class militancy produced l government reforms on paper, which the workers then had to fight for on the job and in their communities, sometimes with I unions and other times without. And while American capital might not I have minded a little fascism, FDR sought to preserve a more - 1 or-less democratic corporate capitalism in recovering from I the Depression, against the perceived extremes of social - 1 ism, fascism and leveling populism. Zieger, Strike! We would like to I extend special thanks to Jen and to Mike who did the I interview and instigated it for their patience because, we I were hard to pin down for the interview as no one knows our I TRUE identities! The purpose of this letter is to clarify certain points I we have tried to make in the past year. It is also to take responsibility for, in the past, promoting certain ideologies that we no longer believe are solutions to the issues that we have tried to raise. The two members of the band that were heavily I involved with the Uhuru movement are no longer working I with that particular organization. It is also important to I point out that this was never the only source of knowledge or I analyses about these issues that we derived our ideas from I as people or a band we added lot of our own ideas and had I our own interpretations of their analyses, which the move- 1 ment was always quick to point out. There is really no need to go into depth at this point I about the criticisms we have of the Uhuru movement, and in fact, there is good reason not to in this public forum. Basically we do not want our criticisms of this organization or any others to be used as an excuse and legitimization for complacency or apathetic laziness which in many cases it already has become. Western culture, especially in the U. S, has the tendency to try to divide our lives into 57 separate parts that do not have to be consis- tent with one another. Our society has taken spirituality or belief in God and perverted it, turned it into a hobby pastime, and justification for oppression. This is true of especially western Christianity. Which is important to specify, because we are not advocating going back to church with your mom unless of course you have the intention of confronting them on true ethics and principles of the creator. We are also not advocating involvement in spiritual groups who do not do anything to change or impact society around them. This has never been the true purpose of spiritu- ality, as defined by any of the messengers of god. Does this mean that these movements have a bad analyses of politics and economics? Does it mean they have the solutions to the problems analyzed well? Are the problems they point out the only contributions to the problems that plague humanity, NOOOoooo! These ide- 1 ologiesattemptto appeal I to the material side of human beings to moti- vate them to change so- 1 ciety. Their ideology is I inherently flawed because truth, right and wrong are very real forces which are immaterial and impossible to physi- 1 cally objectively prove? YET we all will concede there is I right and wrong ie. Sorry, it is only going to get worse better from I here on out. Apathy seems to be settling in more and more I everyday in this community and the society around us. I Mainly because we get jaded trying to follow paths that we I are led to believe will lead us to a more JUST society and I true fulfillment. Led by ideologies and methods that are I limited, incomplete, and ineffective, and so, too many get I burnt out, accepting the lie that there is no hope, make I what you can out of it. Then we wonder what happened when nothing seems to I have changed. Because the fundamental ideologies and [ presumptions about what is wrong is limited, because it I comes from subjective limited philosophers and political ideologies. And so the structures and systems that per- petuate the injustices of torture, starvation and ecocide are I never shaken but left in place to continue wreaking havoc I on our world, and all its life. Americans are I bought off, be it beer and soap operas, or punk rock and I Nintendo, porno, sex - kept comfortable and distracted. Humanity is divided by its distraction and attach- ments to the false idols it resurrects to fill the void created I by straying so far from the universal source of justice, I equality, love, true freedom, THAT is ALLAH. The point of de- 1 tachment from these distractions is so we are not blinded I from acting upon what is JUST, opposed to allowing our attachment to these various distractions and our subjec- tive physical desires for pleasure and comfort dictate our I actions. It can be applied to all people who wish to to put I loyalty to justice, equality and love before attachment to I race gender, nationality or culture Dan XracetraitorX dbinaei shrike. Fuck all that intellectualism and rhetoric— just spell out where the bullshit lies, try to steer a path for yourselves and your friends where you can maintain your integrity, stay somewhat sane, and still be able to give to the greater good both materially, spiritually, and through I example. Good lucki! My concern for the activity of the punk commu- nity, however, has not. Over the past few years, I have been constantly I amazed and impressed by the number of punks who have I entered the field of education. I think my high school experi- I ence would have been a lot different if I had had even one I teacher who I could have even remotely related to. Not so, 1 unfortunately; the teachers made sure that the dividing line I between them and the students was indelibly drawn. No ] human connection between the two sides was ever made. Oh yeah, if you guys know of any punk I librarians lurking about? So much for postal efficiency I'm in a position to see the war zone that is record distribution from the trenches on both sides of the line. First off, lefs be precise. There are not "thousands" I of distributors out there selling wholesale punk rock records I to record stores, as is lightheartedly alluded in the article, but 1 rather a couple dozen at most. Prove it for yourself: Now try listing every label making punk records I mentioned in any ad or review. I Two months later there will be 50 new labels starling up. The I fact is that a vast, amorphous, and constantly fluctuating I corps of labels must deal with a relatively few distributors. That is the organizational task and its form should deter- mine the solution. They are awesome. They are terrific. They are fabulous. That can be a pain What are you gonna do, blackball fucking everybody?!?! Of course not! There are good distributors and there are bad distributors. The key is to steer labels away from the bad guys and towards the good guys. Please note: But there are distributors out there who will intentionally try to fuck labels over, it is a function of the way they do business. Posting a message on a site is a tot less work than sending and carbon copying to thirty different people at least one of whom changes their email address every other week, it seems! The bottom line is this: The bad apples will always remain bad apples. The correct approach should be to identify and publicize who the bad apples are so that they can be avoided. Hell, my very worst experience with a distributor was with one who required a written contract. A written contract with a nogoodnik is worth less than a verbal agreement with a good guy. Thafs a fact. The key is to avoid the shitbags and to help other people avoid the shitbags. It is also worthwhile to spur the basically good people to do the right thing when they fuck up. It is the boxes of unsold-but-paid-for records sitting in the warehouse that tie up the cash-flow of your average distributor and make it literally impossible for them to pay their bills on time. Forcing distributors to buy more stuff up front on non-returnable terms would make their cash-flow situation worse and cause them to pay their bills slower and to fur- ther act in various ways not favorable to the in- terests of little labels. Distributors faced with buying goods up front would definitely take fewer chances on new bands and new labels. You'd better have big name releases or a long track record, Mr. An EP with an unknown band? Forget it! Nothing but risk, a big possible downside only fractionally offset by a relatively small possible upside. Distributors who buy up front also tend to systematically underestimate their potential sales. If they wind up missing 20 sales in the process because they estimated demand too low, that's not a big problem to them. Getting stuck with 20 unsold and unsellable CDs— now that's a big problem to them. A distributor that has a clause allowing unsold goods to be returned will tend to cover the full potential demand— possibly returning some unsold stuff, possibly keeping everything, depending on the real demand for the item. Distributors who buy things up front also tend to overemphasize new releases at the expense of back catalog. This makes sense if you give it some thought. As a distributor, I work on consignment terms with my primary labels. Well, as a label, I want to sell back catalog. No, more than that, I need to sell back catalog. Well, there are a lot of words here. Thanks for reading along. Tim Davenport T. It is an insult to the band and to you. I assure you that, with the time and care we put into it, it will be a worthy representation and celebra- tion of the band. Needless to say, C. The music was, and still is, very precious to me. For five years of my life, Christ On Parade was my voice. It was how I expressed my feelings and shared my ideas. It was how I worked through my conflicts and dilemmas, and how I communicated my struggles and revelations. It was the bridge I built between my world and the world around me. It was my life and it was my family. This is extremely disrespectful and you have deeply, deeply offended me. I want you to know that I take this very seriously and very personally. Who are you? Why would you do this? But if you do care and you understand what Christ On Parade was about, then this is especially sad, because what you have done goes against everything our band and our music stands for. In reality, there are those who share an alternative vision of the world, and those who desperately need to be woken up to new ideas. When we start begging and stealing from one another, disrespecting each other and ripping each other off is when we have truly become that which we hate. Lastly, I would like to address the people who distribute punk bootlegs. The difference between punk mu- sic and mainstream music is that punk comes from a real place inside people and has the power to transform social reality, and mainstream music does not. This is why bootleg- ging a punk band is entirely different from bootlegging a commercially successful rock band. Bootlegging a punk band is much more damaging and much more detrimental. Allow me to explain why this is so: The ideas exchanged between people through punk music and punk culture empower us both individually and collectively. For punks, these ideas are what makes us strong. You are taking away their right to represent them- selves, as well as , their right not to. Worst of ail, you are commodifying and devaluing their ideas. In the power of these ideas, remember, lies the strength of punk. Therefore, by bootlegging punk bands, you are essentially destroying punk and everything it represents. People who distribute these bootlegs are assisting with this downfall. Is this making sense to anybody? Something I held as sacred has been violated. Hi, this is Jo from Mind Matter. Noah has pretty much expressed how I feel about bootlegging punk what is up with that? It was not about the money- we felt that they should be heard. These records and this band were, on many different levels, a huge part of all our lives back in 1 You could call C. We had planned this year anniversary re-issue prior to finding out about the bootleg. I urge all C. Dear Noah and Jo, While I like and respect you both for your work I over the years, I do feel the need to point out a few things in light of your anger. My point is this: While some bootleg- gers are in it strictly for the money, the majority do it because they are fans, and despite the high prices one might end up paying in a store for such a record, the bootlegger usually isn't the one jacking up the price. Generally, the middlemen do that. Is this not a bootleg by your standards, too? Why the silence? Use phone for ad reservations. Check out their debut 7" on Prank Records. Charles Bronson. Asshole Parade. U XV xOXji. All items ppd in US. Loose Change CD and more! Dave sifted through 17, tapes and came up with the best of his demos. The classic Ramones live album gets sifted through a Japanese interpreter for an even more warped take of the Ramones original lyrics. 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I sort of won- dered why they'd place a Subway in a truck stop. We are in a huge cell block, and on the floor in front of us is an outline of a man. It turns out that this guy had hung himself some years ago, and when they cut him down, that's where he landed. Above us are metal walks, and more prison cells. At the back of the cell block is a small hole in the wall that reads "food". There's a security guard at the door, "We're Furious George," I say into the mic to the eager faces, "and a funny thing happened to us on the way to the prison! The van was bright yellow, and could easily pass for the Furious Mobile. I was freezing and cranky. We had played Erie the night before, and had spent the whole night not getting anything. Espe- cially sleep. I'm for the Burger King. Adam here wants Subway. He's a vegetarian. What about you? Where the hell is our drummer? Much of anything. I had become dumb from tour- ing. And from dying my hair blond. I don't think I can handle anymore grease. I'm tired of hav- ing the 'rhea. Too bad! I also shivered a lot. It was fucking freezing. I ordered a Subway Trio. Ham, Turkey, roast beef. It was cheap. I also picked up a bag of Baked Lays and a bottle of Diet Pepsi. Road nectar of the Gods. I told her that we were full of that, thank you. We are try- ing to raise money for a dying child's last wish! I could barely afford the sub. Parked in the lot behind the place. I didn't have the keys, so I figured I'd stand around, and wait for Evan and Adam. Who did have them. Strangers talking to me when I don't get enough sleep is almost as bad as people throwing fish at me. He was wearing a warm jacket, jeans, boots, and looked sort of friendly. I hate friendly people at truck stops. Never know when they are gonna kill you. I don't know why, but I said I didn't mind. I guess I was just bored while waiting for Evan and Adam to get their stuff. Punk Rock. I had spent too much time in California with them F. The city? I just want to ask you some simple questions. Because if you are, I already told them inside that I'm out of dough. I'm a Jew. You people scare me. What if you're right and I am going to hell? I haven't packed. Bob then reached into his pocket and pulled out a wallet. He flipped it open and showed me a silver and blue badge. It said "Pennsylvania D. Suddenly he was joined by another friend. He showed me his D. It was purty. I don't know why. Probably because ever since I'd seen that D. My stomach was beginning to rumble. Just say No! The guys showed Evan and Adam their badges. Their faces went white. I just shrugged my shoulders, and they fconwtews both told Bob that they lived in New York, and gave him their Driver's License numbers. I'm not meaning to be pushy, but we have a gig to get to, and we're tired. Uh- huh. We'd like to know if we can have a dog just run around the outside of your van and see if he smells anything. None of us did drugs. He kind of scowled and told me that that was our choice. But he wouldn't tell us what would happen if we said no. I asked Adam and Evan if it was okay that a dog run around the van. They both thought it would be okay, and besides, we knew we didn't have a choice. Suddenly Bob whistles loudly, and a cop car that says "K-9 Unit" pulls up out of fucking no-where. Out of it comes an older, mean cop, in a D. If I want him to, he'll attack, and keep biting you until I tell him to stop. Fucking lunatic. Has to be, with a partner who pisses on three legs. The mean cop with the D. We are not really worried. None of us do drugs. We kinda hoped no one who was in the damn thing left any- thing. If it's more, than, well, Pennsylvania has very good drug laws on the side of the defendant. I did warn everyone never to carry any- thing. The dog ran around the van, sniffing, and found nothing. Maybe the dog's nose is just not ready. I know about you type of people. I halfway expected a camera crew to come out of hiding and tell us we were on "Cops". This was so stupid. The mean cop then gave the dog a rag. The dog bit it and started barking. Then tried to tear up the rag. The dog ran around our van again, then started to hop up and down on the passenger side door. Then it started scratching and bark- ing. Evan, Adam, and I just looked at the D. The dog smells drugs, so we believe you are carrying something. Of course you can say 'no'. The dog continued to bark and scratch up the van. Adam started to bitch about the paint job. The dog is never wrong! He had an eat-shit grin on his face. There was no phone around. That's when I pulled out my cellular. Punk rock. I didn't smile at the dog. He'd bite my mouth off. Adam dialed the phone and got his dad on the line. He explained to him our situation. They talked for quite a while. At two dollars a minute. Then they gave it a rag, and it went nuts! Between a lawyer and his client. Adam continued talking to his Dad, and the cops and dog got more and more antsy. That equipment is fucking heavy. You ever lifted a Marshall? He was playing some sort of bullshit game. Finally Bob gets on the phone and talks to Adam's dad for like fifteen minutes. I eat my sub. I'm hungry. Evan is able to get his coat out of the van after the jacket is searched. He's cold. Adam just stands around. Finally Bob gives Adam back his dad. Adam talks for a few seconds, then says, "Okay, I'll call you back," and hangs up. We gotta let them search the van. He smiles. I look at the other cop. I look at the dog's part- ner. He looks like he's about to come. We are a straight edge band. Like Minor Threat. Or Uniform Choice. Just say no! Adam unlocks the thing, and Bob pulls out our suitcases. The dogs sniffs those first. We believe there is some- thing in the front, so we won't search the back," explains Bob. I hate animals in the van. They smell it up. Then I have to take more showers. He runs into the van and eats my bag of potato chips, that's what he does. The dog barks like crazy, then starts to scratch at the ashtray. The cops take apart the ashtray of the van and look at and in it. The dog is never wrong. And you just wasted over an hour of our time. We have a gig to get to. In Clearfield. We are playing an old prison. Now a club. For the kids. But he's not. You should feed him more. He probably doesn't want to be sued. We want stickers. The dog barks in agreement. Of your band! What are you called again? It's full of stickers. From The Go-Go Rays. From Erie. Who gave them to us the night before. I'll put them on my car. In Prison! As we make our way toward the next gig Evan clears his throat, then speaks. It's Burger King. E mail me at furygeo aol. Evan at parkluck aol. Or you can mail us at P. Got lots of great records this month, and they include bands such as Toilet Boys, John Cougar Concentration Camp who rock my world. Teen Idols Ben Weasel Approved! Whatta month! I hear they are recording a single now. Been touring a lot lately. Thanks to everyone who has helped us out, and thanks Cleveland. What a show. In yellow tights. Girls, he has a huge bulge. I'm not kidding. P also rocked that night, and it was amazing to see Todd puke through his nose! Yeah Baby! And The Beatnick Termites! Those guys are the coolest! Nicest guys I've met in the midwest! Support them, they rule! When we did "Sonic Reduc- er", we stripped naked. Best line of the night came from Matt Army. Punk Rock! With the big noise in mainstream pub- lications about "fanzine revolution" a few years ago, I'm surprised the book deals didn't come sooner. I was hoping Aaron Cometbus would end up publishing a book before the millennium he did have a story excerpted for a photo book called Unheard Music. He's done enough interviews and in-depth stories on the band, so it would only come naturally. I'm sure Chris from Slug and Lettuce could publish an encyclopedia set of books from her photographs alone. Then came the books about fanzines by V. I'm hoping as people's zines begin grow that more people will take the DIY initiative and put together their own books. After col- lecting zines for over 10 years, I get excited at the idea of compiling a "best of" from my favorite zines. I have no idea how to set up perfect binding which is flat, book style spine, versus the folded and stapled spine that nearly every zine uses , printing resources, and most im- portantly, distribution. Incommunicado Press is a San Diego book publisher that has printed books by Nicole Panter, Jimmy Jazz and Bill Brent, along with music resource guides such as Releasing an Independent Record and Book Your Own Tour neither books apply much to the punk scene since most punk resources have been well-documented or can easily found through the usual punk chan- nels. Gary Hustwit, the owner of Incommunicado Press, told me a book distribution is well-organized. This leads me to believe that you don't have the resources to establish a publishing com- pany or the ability to smooth talk a distribu- tor into picking up your book, you're gonna be shit out of luck on the distribution side of things. I have the feeling book distribution is just as tough as zine distribution. Again, as more people become involved, DIY book publishing can create an alternate to playing the big business game, much as the zine world has done..

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It was my life and it was my family. This is extremely disrespectful and you have deeply, deeply offended me. I want you to know that I take this very seriously and very personally. Who are you? Why would you do this? But if you do care and you understand what Christ On Parade was about, then this is especially sad, because what you have done goes against everything our band and our music stands for. In reality, there are those who share an alternative vision of the world, and those who desperately need to be woken up to new ideas. When we start begging and stealing from one another, disrespecting each other and ripping each other off is when we have truly become that which we hate. Lastly, I would like to address the people who distribute punk bootlegs. The difference between punk mu- sic and mainstream music is that punk comes from a real place inside people and has the power to transform social reality, and mainstream music does not. This is why bootleg- ging a punk band is entirely different from bootlegging a commercially successful rock band. Bootlegging a punk band is much more damaging and much more detrimental. Allow me to explain why this is so: The ideas exchanged between people through punk music and punk culture empower us both individually and collectively. For punks, these ideas are what makes us strong. You are taking away their right to represent them- selves, as well as , their right not to. Worst of ail, you are commodifying and devaluing their ideas. In the power of these ideas, remember, lies the strength of punk. Therefore, by bootlegging punk bands, you are essentially destroying punk and everything it represents. People who distribute these bootlegs are assisting with this downfall. Is this making sense to anybody? Something I held as sacred has been violated. Hi, this is Jo from Mind Matter. Noah has pretty much expressed how I feel about bootlegging punk what is up with that? It was not about the money- we felt that they should be heard. These records and this band were, on many different levels, a huge part of all our lives back in 1 You could call C. We had planned this year anniversary re-issue prior to finding out about the bootleg. I urge all C. Dear Noah and Jo, While I like and respect you both for your work I over the years, I do feel the need to point out a few things in light of your anger. My point is this: While some bootleg- gers are in it strictly for the money, the majority do it because they are fans, and despite the high prices one might end up paying in a store for such a record, the bootlegger usually isn't the one jacking up the price. Generally, the middlemen do that. Is this not a bootleg by your standards, too? Why the silence? Use phone for ad reservations. Check out their debut 7" on Prank Records. Charles Bronson. Asshole Parade. U XV xOXji. All items ppd in US. Loose Change CD and more! Dave sifted through 17, tapes and came up with the best of his demos. The classic Ramones live album gets sifted through a Japanese interpreter for an even more warped take of the Ramones original lyrics. Hand picked by Dave Parasite. Discover your new favorite bands. Send to: Parasites Fiery Mousetrain P. Box Berkeley , CA Checks payable to: Daniel Cofer http: Great heavy guitars and angry singing all add up to a must have release! Hard melodic I U. An essentia l disc! The original NJ 01! All new, recordings! Raw and heavy, no bullshit, no love songs, great! This is their first album. These Texas folks are All-Guys, contrary to the obvious implication of the band name. This debut CD from one of the coolest bands I know! Fast, melodic punk rock with great lyrics! A very boring advertisement US HUB? CD comp 23 bands 29 songs 4 With: Shirts now available also check for details!!!!!! Wilson B2Q2 Costa Mesa. T VSR. Two songs each by two of the greatest pop punk bands around these days. If you like Mutant Pop type stuff, you'll love this. Get it! Only 3 box ppd! Coming out soon on Atreyu: TenRins 7", Operation: Guys with rebel flag hats were shop- ping, and filling their pick-ups. I sort of won- dered why they'd place a Subway in a truck stop. We are in a huge cell block, and on the floor in front of us is an outline of a man. It turns out that this guy had hung himself some years ago, and when they cut him down, that's where he landed. Above us are metal walks, and more prison cells. At the back of the cell block is a small hole in the wall that reads "food". There's a security guard at the door, "We're Furious George," I say into the mic to the eager faces, "and a funny thing happened to us on the way to the prison! The van was bright yellow, and could easily pass for the Furious Mobile. I was freezing and cranky. We had played Erie the night before, and had spent the whole night not getting anything. Espe- cially sleep. I'm for the Burger King. Adam here wants Subway. He's a vegetarian. What about you? Where the hell is our drummer? Much of anything. I had become dumb from tour- ing. And from dying my hair blond. I don't think I can handle anymore grease. I'm tired of hav- ing the 'rhea. Too bad! I also shivered a lot. It was fucking freezing. I ordered a Subway Trio. Ham, Turkey, roast beef. It was cheap. I also picked up a bag of Baked Lays and a bottle of Diet Pepsi. Road nectar of the Gods. I told her that we were full of that, thank you. We are try- ing to raise money for a dying child's last wish! I could barely afford the sub. Parked in the lot behind the place. I didn't have the keys, so I figured I'd stand around, and wait for Evan and Adam. Who did have them. Strangers talking to me when I don't get enough sleep is almost as bad as people throwing fish at me. He was wearing a warm jacket, jeans, boots, and looked sort of friendly. I hate friendly people at truck stops. Never know when they are gonna kill you. I don't know why, but I said I didn't mind. I guess I was just bored while waiting for Evan and Adam to get their stuff. Punk Rock. I had spent too much time in California with them F. The city? I just want to ask you some simple questions. Because if you are, I already told them inside that I'm out of dough. I'm a Jew. You people scare me. What if you're right and I am going to hell? I haven't packed. Bob then reached into his pocket and pulled out a wallet. He flipped it open and showed me a silver and blue badge. It said "Pennsylvania D. Suddenly he was joined by another friend. He showed me his D. It was purty. I don't know why. Probably because ever since I'd seen that D. My stomach was beginning to rumble. Just say No! The guys showed Evan and Adam their badges. Their faces went white. I just shrugged my shoulders, and they fconwtews both told Bob that they lived in New York, and gave him their Driver's License numbers. I'm not meaning to be pushy, but we have a gig to get to, and we're tired. Uh- huh. We'd like to know if we can have a dog just run around the outside of your van and see if he smells anything. None of us did drugs. He kind of scowled and told me that that was our choice. But he wouldn't tell us what would happen if we said no. I asked Adam and Evan if it was okay that a dog run around the van. They both thought it would be okay, and besides, we knew we didn't have a choice. Suddenly Bob whistles loudly, and a cop car that says "K-9 Unit" pulls up out of fucking no-where. Out of it comes an older, mean cop, in a D. If I want him to, he'll attack, and keep biting you until I tell him to stop. Fucking lunatic. Has to be, with a partner who pisses on three legs. The mean cop with the D. We are not really worried. None of us do drugs. We kinda hoped no one who was in the damn thing left any- thing. If it's more, than, well, Pennsylvania has very good drug laws on the side of the defendant. I did warn everyone never to carry any- thing. The dog ran around the van, sniffing, and found nothing. Maybe the dog's nose is just not ready. I know about you type of people. I halfway expected a camera crew to come out of hiding and tell us we were on "Cops". This was so stupid. The mean cop then gave the dog a rag. The dog bit it and started barking. Then tried to tear up the rag. The dog ran around our van again, then started to hop up and down on the passenger side door. Then it started scratching and bark- ing. Evan, Adam, and I just looked at the D. The dog smells drugs, so we believe you are carrying something. Of course you can say 'no'. The dog continued to bark and scratch up the van. Adam started to bitch about the paint job. The dog is never wrong! He had an eat-shit grin on his face. There was no phone around. That's when I pulled out my cellular. Punk rock. I didn't smile at the dog. He'd bite my mouth off. Adam dialed the phone and got his dad on the line. He explained to him our situation. They talked for quite a while. At two dollars a minute. Then they gave it a rag, and it went nuts! Between a lawyer and his client. Adam continued talking to his Dad, and the cops and dog got more and more antsy. That equipment is fucking heavy. You ever lifted a Marshall? He was playing some sort of bullshit game. Finally Bob gets on the phone and talks to Adam's dad for like fifteen minutes. I eat my sub. I'm hungry. Evan is able to get his coat out of the van after the jacket is searched. He's cold. Adam just stands around. Finally Bob gives Adam back his dad. Adam talks for a few seconds, then says, "Okay, I'll call you back," and hangs up. We gotta let them search the van. He smiles. I look at the other cop. I look at the dog's part- ner. He looks like he's about to come. We are a straight edge band. Like Minor Threat. Or Uniform Choice. Just say no! Adam unlocks the thing, and Bob pulls out our suitcases. The dogs sniffs those first. We believe there is some- thing in the front, so we won't search the back," explains Bob. I hate animals in the van. They smell it up. Then I have to take more showers. He runs into the van and eats my bag of potato chips, that's what he does. The dog barks like crazy, then starts to scratch at the ashtray. The cops take apart the ashtray of the van and look at and in it. The dog is never wrong. And you just wasted over an hour of our time. We have a gig to get to. In Clearfield. We are playing an old prison. Now a club. For the kids. But he's not. You should feed him more. He probably doesn't want to be sued. We want stickers. The dog barks in agreement. Of your band! What are you called again? It's full of stickers. From The Go-Go Rays. From Erie. Who gave them to us the night before. I'll put them on my car. In Prison! As we make our way toward the next gig Evan clears his throat, then speaks. It's Burger King. E mail me at furygeo aol. Evan at parkluck aol. Or you can mail us at P. Got lots of great records this month, and they include bands such as Toilet Boys, John Cougar Concentration Camp who rock my world. Teen Idols Ben Weasel Approved! Whatta month! I hear they are recording a single now. Been touring a lot lately. Thanks to everyone who has helped us out, and thanks Cleveland. What a show. In yellow tights. Girls, he has a huge bulge. I'm not kidding. P also rocked that night, and it was amazing to see Todd puke through his nose! Yeah Baby! And The Beatnick Termites! Those guys are the coolest! Nicest guys I've met in the midwest! Support them, they rule! When we did "Sonic Reduc- er", we stripped naked. Best line of the night came from Matt Army. Punk Rock! With the big noise in mainstream pub- lications about "fanzine revolution" a few years ago, I'm surprised the book deals didn't come sooner. I was hoping Aaron Cometbus would end up publishing a book before the millennium he did have a story excerpted for a photo book called Unheard Music. He's done enough interviews and in-depth stories on the band, so it would only come naturally. I'm sure Chris from Slug and Lettuce could publish an encyclopedia set of books from her photographs alone. Then came the books about fanzines by V. I'm hoping as people's zines begin grow that more people will take the DIY initiative and put together their own books. After col- lecting zines for over 10 years, I get excited at the idea of compiling a "best of" from my favorite zines. I have no idea how to set up perfect binding which is flat, book style spine, versus the folded and stapled spine that nearly every zine uses , printing resources, and most im- portantly, distribution. Incommunicado Press is a San Diego book publisher that has printed books by Nicole Panter, Jimmy Jazz and Bill Brent, along with music resource guides such as Releasing an Independent Record and Book Your Own Tour neither books apply much to the punk scene since most punk resources have been well-documented or can easily found through the usual punk chan- nels. Gary Hustwit, the owner of Incommunicado Press, told me a book distribution is well-organized. This leads me to believe that you don't have the resources to establish a publishing com- pany or the ability to smooth talk a distribu- tor into picking up your book, you're gonna be shit out of luck on the distribution side of things. I have the feeling book distribution is just as tough as zine distribution. Again, as more people become involved, DIY book publishing can create an alternate to playing the big business game, much as the zine world has done. It's got all the punk rant- ing you need, without the pretension. Phil admits that he doesn't know much about politics, but he gives his personal opin- ions from a working class bent coupled with his life experiences. At the same time the guy seems to like nothing more than to enjoy his favorite bands while getting drunk. One of those bands includes the almighty Venom, which is maybe part of the reason why I dig his zine that and he hates third wave ska. Feel free to write with any zine questions. I'm always looking for stories on Satanism, the occult, Christians gone bad, etc. Please include the name of the publication and the date it appeared in. I have to say I had a really good time. LA is one of those places I've never really envisioned myself. I mean. I've seen it on TV, but I've never really seen myself stand- ing in front of the Chinese theater where all of the hand prints and stars are in the sidewalk, or driving down Rodeo Drive. I guess I never really thought it existed, that it was a creation of TV and existed only in movies and sit corns. I really enjoyed being a tourist, but I did find one thing very disappointing. First, you have to understand that when I was in high school, I went to New York City with my mom and saw the Statue of Liberty for the first time. OK, if you've never seen the Statue of Liberty in person, your image of it comes from movies like Ghostbusters II where the statue comes to life and walks down the streets of the city, dwarfing all of the skyscrapers. And then you see it in real life we saw it from the 50th floor of the World Trade Center and it's fucking tiny! It's on some little island and it looks like it's 3 stories high! So, needless to say, I had built this great American icon up in my head to be something it wasn't, and my trip to LA killed my image of another Amer- ican landmark, the famed "Hollywood" sign. If you've never seen it, I hate to spoil the surprise but I have to tell you that the sign is pretty, well, small. On the drive back I had a pretty inter- esting conversation with this guy Christo- pher - who isn't native to California either. We talked about how we see the scene in California as being different than pretty much every where else either of us have ever lived. One of the big problems which he brought up but I heartily agree is that the scene here is so insular. In some ways, that's good, espe- cially if you're new in town. You can go to punk shows and live in a punk house and work at a job with other punks and go to punk stores. You don't have to interact with the rest of the world if you don't want to. What's good about this is that it's reas- suring and validating. It's encouraging to see punk and punks in other ways than besides in bands. It's good to see some utopian in a sense ideals being carried out. But it's not good because there's more to the world than punks, and unfortunately the punks are a great minority. It's easy to fall into a trap, or a cycle or a rut, where all you see and all you think about is punk rock and your own little world. But you leam from interact- ing with others outside of your culture. Just like, if you're white, you learn from interact- ing with others not like yourself. Like you learn perspective. How much do radical pol- itics matter to the average person? Or, how can you make radical politics matter to the average person? The other thing about punk being insu- lar is that I have always liked that punk is about thinking for yourself and being able to back up and defend all of your values and everything you stand for. About not getting what is in your head from your parents or from text books, but from figuring it out on your own, and reevaluating everything that is handed to you on a plate and through television and the culture you see around you every day. Being challenged on every aspect of what you are, every day. So what? Living in San Francisco you don't have to do that. You can have a job where you have tattoos and piercing and where you have fucked up hair and listen to loud music. No one will look at you twice. And you interact in a punk community were every body knows and mouths the words to the same general generic political line and no one really thinks about it. That means you can just sit back and relax your guard. And with that, I must ask myself, why have all of my columns been about "punk rock"? The comments I've just made about the punk rock community make me think I need to be talking about something more "real" and more tangible, but at the same time I know I write and talk about punk as a real culture and community because I want it to be something so tangible. We validate and reify such a thing as punk rock by talking about it and analyzing it, and I guess partici- pating in it, the way we do mainstream cul- ture. These things mean that we need to come up with both a way to make punk important and viable, but also to make it a part of our lives, not to let it consume us. The other punk rock related thing I wanted to mention was scenesters. I've been thinking about what makes a punk rock kid famous, and what makes them different from someone who isn't a scenester, and why peo- ple always want to talk to or about scenesters. And basically I came down to the idea that the reason I talk to "scenesters" is that to be a scenester, this person has done something to give me access to their ideas. Whether they have put out a zine or written a song, I now have some basis on which to start a conversa- tion with them and a point from which to start communicating with them. I think that's a very simple difference and it also makes no distinction between who has better or more valuable ideas, or who is a better or more valuable part of the scene. I've always main- tained that producers and consumers, audi- ence and performer are equally as vital to the livelihood of punk rock. And the good thing about this is that it is easy to make your ideas known, and to make them accessible, and it's up to you the scale which you want to do that. That's one good and valuable difference be- tween punk rock and the mainstream world - you can be heard if you want to. Not, what are you going to do about something that happened between people you do not or nev- er will know, but what are you going to do about rape in your own scene? The issue is not what MRR or HaC does to investigate allega- tions of any sort against a member of the nationwide punk rock community, it is about what you do when allegations are made against someone you know or interact with. It is each of our responsibility to confront mem- bers of our community when they do some- thing fucked up, and it needs to be done in a real and immediate way, by the people whom it most directly affects. These are real people's lives we are talking about here and the dramas shouldn't be played out across the pages of a national magazine by people who don't really know all the facts or the repercussions, and who won't feel any consequences themselves. On the same general topic, a month or two ago we printed a rumor about the band Hot Water Music in Anne R. Key's gossip column, which made a very serious accusa- tion against them, in a somewhat joking mat- ter. It involved one of the members beating up on his girlfriend. Apparently, while on tour, someone came up to them and asked them if this was true, and they've been get- ting some flak since. Now, not only would I never believe anything I read in the gossip column which has about as much veracity as anything printed in an April issue , I have talked to them about this and sincerely be- lieve it to be only a rumor. However, these kinds of "rumors" or accusations can be so damaging, and I wanted to give them a chance to defend themselves. You can write them at NW 13th St , Gainesville, FL if you want their side of the story on how and why this rumor began. As a general rule, before you believe something so serious about a person or a band, make sure you check with the source, and remember innocent until prov- en guilty. I have to say he was pretty much the highlight of both of the shows I attended. Quick, to the point, and very passionate, his political rants were concise and hit hard. My favorite of his poems starts "I hate my job, but I still go every day, I hate the cops but I still do what they say. I thought it was an awesome confrontation to all of the political type punks who talk the talk but don't really apply what they're saying to their everyday lives. Of course there are many contradictions about living within our "sys- tem" and our society, but these are things which need to be criticized and justified. Shit, if you need to talk Earlier this month about it, write me- I'll listen. Alright, I'll step lots of twanging and distortion, and the em- one of our hard disks crashed and took my down off my soapbox, now, and do some phasis on 'artsy'. They do get vicious at times, email program with it. I always learn things demo reviews. At times they make me think of York, NY Very poppy punk with cool unanswered messages, my saved messages, decent production. They're just a bit and my address book, so I am starting from luma, C A So, if you wrote me and I haven't the shit! Blazing, intense, old style Italian them appealing anyway. My only Brooklyn, NY And that would be it for wrote me about the Braid show at Punks With complaint is that there's not enough songs! My address is jenangel mind songs, good production. Vicious, crusty vocals, thick guitar, drum machine, samples. Pretty cool. Gotta love it! Pretty interesting. Hello, my name is Dave Emory, and it's this other crap? We're really supposed to be The male sounds just like Ray Cappo at times, my pleasure and privilege to present to you above this weak ass bullshit. Is this a result of 4 songs, decent production. Lee, the author of the the jock in punk explosion of '95? Give me a Portland, OR Yeah, 1 know, there's always been some solid punk. That's all there is to it. Everyone reemergence of Fascism, published in hard- ofthis stuff happening, but I don't know why. Guys- control your fucking dicks. It's that Different songs made me think of different Martin, welcome back to our airwaves, simple. Be cool. It's not that hard. Before the break, we were talking about want to do something. And as for you girls- own sound. What a surprise- they're from the incorporation of Third Reich spies into fucking think! Try not to get in a vulnerable Canada. Canada just seems to have the best the Western intelligence apparatus. We were position. Get to know someone pretty well underground bands. Never listen to great, funny, snotty hardcore, catchy and fast, tually working for a German geopolitical people's words, watch them. See how they as it should be. We talked about the Odessa Organi- act. A manipulative person can do something Queen St. I'm telling you, some cool, under- ship. In this context we were discussing an determine the way people treat you. That's a ground record label needs to pick these guys American representative of the Odessa Orga- simple fact. If I have a purple mohawk and up. Very intense, interesting, and original nization, and also an American operative of bondage gear, and leave my house. And we service, a fellow named H. Keith Thompson, arrested. It's not right. It's not fair. But it's the can't forget the awesome female vocals. These He worked directly with an American Fascist truth. But it's the roll, not a lot stands out, but pretty good stuff Soviets, as well as working in a Nazi and anti- truth, and you should expect it. I don't con- all the same. Neither was pro-Com- done it and I definitely don't think you are Howell St. Solid tunes with a decent dose of ML: Yes, this is true, and this takes on a very 5 rednecks for dressing punk , but I do expect originality- they kind of make me think of the vivid form in the case of Francis Parker Y ock- it. Carry some mace. Do something, man. Yockey, Also, I know that it's not just girls who get little thrashier. Keith Thompson, was actual- raped, and not just guys who do the raping, Frances St. He started working with them after the lately, so I thought I'd comment. Oh, yeah, violent thrash with a razor-edged distortion Prague show trials in late There's got to be some- production. Here you have another example of a Nazi working directly with Eastern European intelligence agencies, even though he was an ardent anti-Commu- nist. He did so, again, because he felt the geopolitical imperative of a German-Russian alliance was so overwhelming that he just sort-of had to overlook and overcome the fact that there was this ideological problem, i. Communism, in the Soviet Union. So accord- ing to H. Keith Thompson, who was Parker Yockey's close friend, Yockey admitted to Thompson that he was doing this, and this was all well and good for Thompson and his neo-Nazi circle in New York City where he was based during the early fifties. One of the things that we should discuss is how people like Francis Parker Yockey have left a legacy very much with us. Yockey was one of the key influences on Willis Carto and the Liberty Lobby. Yes, what happened is Yockey was seek- ing to elude Federal agents in the U. They were on his trail, there's no question they were seeking to find him. Well, Yockey made a sort of stupid error, with getting discovered and arrested in Oakland, CA in , and he was put in jail for eleven days in the San Francisco County Jail, and then he committed suicide in prison. Some- how he was given a cyanide tablet or some- thing that he munched on, and he died. Well, the last person from the outside to see Yockey in prison, besides his lawyer, was a rather obscure figure at the time named Willis Car- to, who today is behind the Liberty Lobby, which is a very well-developed anti-Semitic organization. Some people might describe it as a neo-Nazi group, but I think, from looking at its newspaper The Spotlight , you could def- initely say it dfinitely has sympathies for what you could correctly call Nazi and Fas- cist movements. I think Carto's politics are aptly summed up by some letters he had written to one of his associates that were discovered by someone who was working for the Liberty Lobby, who thought that Carto was basically just a strong. Right-wing con- servative, but then he discovered these let- ters, this Liberty Lobby employee, that indi- cate clearly Carto's pro-Nazi sympathies. These letters, and I'm paraphrasing, basically are saying that Hitler losing the war was the worst thing, and the blame has to go to the Jews, and these letters were eventually pub- lished by Drew Pearson, the noted syndicat- ed columnist, in the late s. So Carto is head of the Liberty Lobby these days, which is very tight with the militia movement in the United States, which has spun-off many dif- ferent permutations, including the Institute for Historical Review IHR — this is another Liberty Lobby project, an organization that claims the Holocaust never happened, and so forth and so on, and the great irony here is that Yockey is embraced by Carto as a patron saint for the Liberty Lobby after he commit- ted suicide in jail. So you could say that the patron saint for the Holocaust denial move- ment in the United States is a guy who was working for Czech intelligence, a Communist intelligence agency. Of course, Carto won't admit that, that would be very embarrassing for him, but that's the truth. And we should also note that elements associated with the 'old guard' from the Third Reich have, in a sense, spawned a new gener- ation. Yes, the Institute for Historical Review holds these meetings every year, every other year, at least they had been for a while, and they bring speakers, and they get together, and they sort of try to pretend that they're scholars objectively debating questions of historical relevance, particularly of the era in question, WWII and the Holocaust. What they really are is neo-Nazis and Holocaust deniers who are trying to inject their perspec- tive into the public debate as if it was some- how a legitimate historical perspective. Eastern-oriented Nazi, to come and address their group in And he did — he came and talked about his role during the anti-Hitler coup attempt in July , and he met with people there — it was the only time he had ever come to the United States, and what was amazing is you can tell about the kind of people the United States government has not let into the country, because of the Smith act and so forth, because of Commu- nism, and here's a guy, a Nazi, well-known internationally. Hitler's bodyguard, who had these open pro-Soviet, not pro-Communist but pro-Soviet sentiments in terms of his Ger- man-Russian alliance, is articulating very audibly, right until the present day, because Remer's still alive, and yet still, he was al- lowed into the country somehow. Getting back to your point, though about how the 'old guard' still had to mentor a new generation, well, that's exactly what happened. An important neo- Nazi organization internationally now, it hosts the commemoration for Franco's death every year in Spain that go on in November, and so it's very active, and this is what Skorzeny helped spawn. On the other side, you look at someone like Remer, who was directly in- volved in mentoring this latest generation of neo-Nazi leaders who were very instrumen- tal in the wave of neo-Nazi violence that gripped Germany after reunification in So there's direct continuity between the 'old guard' and the new generation. This is some- thing I try to draw very specifically in the book, and I think one of the really important reasons to do this is not simply for the sake of telling the story as to what happened, but because in this day and age, some of the Fascist leaders who are making a lot of head- way with mass-based political parties in Eu- rope, such as Jorg Haider in Austria or Le Pen in France, one of the techniques that they use to advance their objectives is to not claim that Nazis are Fascists, so it's very important for them to go back there in history, and show exactly how in fact they came right out of this Fascist milieu, and while they may claim to be just Right-wing populists these days, it's real- ly a ruse; they're neo-Fascists posing as pop- ulists DE: Perhaps we'll get a chance to talk about some of the connections of M. Le Pen and Heider a little later. Two of the main names in European neo-Fascism that evolved in a sense ideologically from Otto Ernst Remer were two of the acquaintances Michael Kiihnen and Abel Althans. Perhaps we'll get a chance to talk about the two of them later as well. Martin, after the Cold War, some of the seeds that I guess could be thought of as having been sown would be failure of denazification in part at least as a result of the see-saw policy that the Third Reich elements were pursuing, which we discussed in the first half of our interview, a lot of those seeds began to sprout anew. After reunification, Germany began to exhibit some disturbing signs of its old self. First of all we'll go back to the border expan- sion and the Oder-Neisse Line. Well, we should point out that in a German Constitution Court ruled that Ger- many's borders, which included part of what's now Poland and other countries, are the legitimate, legal borders for Germany, and that ruling stands today, even though chances are Helmut Kohl and the German government have after some dithering and equivocation acknowledged that the Oder- Neisse Line that's been the Oder-Neisse Riv- er that separates what is now Poland from what is now the eastern border of Germany. Even though that the German government, at least part of the German government, official- ly recognizes that as the border, it still stands that institutionally another part of the gov- ernment still does not recognize this border, and that's really peculiar, it's very odd: One of the primary elements in the Ger- SsMMjgm man revanchism and a key influence on Kohl are the Bund Der Vertriebenen who are thought of as a connecting link from the Third Reich past to the expansionist present ML: Yes, the Bund Der Vertriebenen is the association of expellees that were of German nationality, German ethnicity, that were ex- pelled from neighboring areas of Sudeten- land and what was Czechoslovakia, what is now the Czech Republic and parts of Poland and so forth. After WWII, as it was ending, there was a strong reaction against Germans, and innocent people were hurt in this, inno- cent Germans, but eventually many people were killed, and many people were forced to move from places they had been living, and they moved across the border, mainly into western Germany. There are many different expel- lee organizations, several of them have been founded by former SS members, and these still exist today. They get a lot of money from the German government, even though some of these organizations use that money to print Holocaust-denial literature, really revanchist and dyspeptic kind of extremist rhetoric in their publications, and some of these Bund Der Vertriebenen organizations, actually funded by the German government today, work with neo-Nazi groups in Germany. What's going on here? Well, I've talked to U. State Department people about this, and I said, "What's going on, why is so much money being given to these groups? How do you interpret this? Give them some money, let them do their thing, but in the end they'll make the policies that Chancellor Kohl wants to make. With regard to German foreign policy in the post-Cold War period, you discuss a Ger- man role in the break-up of both the Yugoslav Federation and Czechoslovakia. Well the Yugoslav Federation, that situation, is fairly well known. It's known even that U. What's less well-known is that the German government's role in desta- bilizing Czechoslovakia, and supporting the rise of the Slavic separatists and nationalists, in particular the strong-man they made chair, the head of the government for awhile, and this support was channeled through a foun- dation called the Hans-Seidl Stiftung, which is essentially the foundation run by the Chris- tian Social Union, another political party in Germany, located in Bavaria, and it's essen- tially the sister party for the Christian Demo- cratic Union. They work hand-in-hand, they're part of the same coalition govern- ment; the Christian Social Union is looked upon as being a shade more conservative than the CDU as a whole, but this foundation is explicitly associated with the CSU, the Chris- tian Social Union, that was involved in foster- ing the rise of the Slavic separatist movement, which eventually culminated in the break-up of Czechoslovakia. I should add one other point: Now, what is a German government-connected organization doing supporting this kind of political ideology in this day and age? You've gotta ask yourself some serious questions about that. We should mention that the Axis nations, in addition to Germany — Japan, and Italy — also involved Rumania under the Fascist Iron Guard, Hungary under the Fascist Iron Cross, Bulgaria under the National Front, and also Slovakia was broken off from Czechoslova- kia and became an independent collabora- tionist government under Father Josef Tiso, and Croatia also became a satellite state of Germany, and was broken off temporarily from Yugoslavia, so when the German geo- politics vis-a-vis what used to be Czechoslo- vakia and Yugoslavia were seen to a certain extent a recapitulation of the Hitler period. In a sense, you do. You see the same kind of borders are forming. I think in Croatia, it's probably not too much of an exaggeration to say that if there's one country in the world where you have a Fascist government, it's Croatia today. There's no question that they glorify the Fascist past, and they're resurrect- ing that kind of sensibility, and it's certainly not a democratic country, even though it had won support from the United States for awhile during the conflict with Serbia, and had heavy military support from the German govern- ment, illegally, because the arms shipments which the Germans were providing, which included MIG fighter jets, and so forth, this is something that was a contradiction of the international agreements at the time. So you do see that in Eastern Europe there is that tendency, or that sort of come-back, where you have very serious economic conditions and social conditions, where according to UNICEF reports that the quality of life is far worse than what it was during the Commu- nist period, and I'm not saying that to advo- cate Communist ideas, just that this is the reality of the whiplash transition from Com- munism to capitalism has been very difficult for countries in Eastern Europe. While it's not bound to happen that a lot of these countries are likely to form Fascist governments, it is very ripe for a very nasty reaction, should the situation not improve in the future. And some of the same Ustase Fascist elements have been making a comeback in Croatia under Tutjman, as you note. With regard to a disturbing return to some ele- ments of the past on the part of Germany, and also making a transition to one of the most illuminating of the many illuminating ele- ments of your book, the anti-immigrant pol- icy that was enunciated, perhaps initially by neo-Nazi German elements, and then was taken on wholeheartedly by Helmut Kohl, and utilized very effectively in German poli- tics, highlights to a certain extent a parallel, and perhaps that's the wrong choice of terms, but a coincidence of policy between the Ger- man neo-Nazi element, those people like Kiihnen and Althans and others, and the policies by the so-called mainstream Helmut Kohl-CDU-CSU, both in regard to anti-immi- grant sentiment and policy, and also with regard to German expansionism. I think there are these parallels and con- tinuities, and it is significant, and this is not to say that the German government is a Nazi government or something like that, or that they're pro-Nazi, it's not true, but the policies of the German government have had an im- pact that has actually helped facilitate neo- Nazism in that country, even though that might not be the government officials' prime intention, or anything like that. Instead what happened is that they had to raise taxes, and West Germans were very bitter because they had to foot the bill, a very expensive bill, for reunification, and all that sort-of policy was screwing up. They realized they had the perfect scapegoat; rather than admit that their policy screwed up, and that they were responsible for these problems, they said "No, immigrants are here, they're to blame, the foreigners are to blame. The neo-Nazis themselves, or the young Na- zis, were actually brutalizing them in the streets physically, and actually killing peo- ple, while at the same time this rhetoric, very vitriolic, you could almost say Fascist type rhetoric, from German officials is being spout- ed day-in and day-out in the government forums and in the media. In effect, this is encouraging these young Nazis to go out and brutalize and kill people, because when you go and scapegoat someone, and say this for- eigner is the cause of your problems, this immigrant is the cause of your problems, this asylum-seeker is, or this African, or this Jew, whatever it might be, sooner or later some- body's going to get it into their head that if that's the cause of the problem, let's kill them! And that's basically how the young Nazis have reacted, so the anti-immigrant politics in Germany is very unfortunate and it's le- thal, you might say. Gunther Grasse, the great German novelist has gone so far as to describe members of Chancellor Kohl's cabinet as white-collar skinheads because they're the ones who are really encouraging the young Nazis to go and undertake these attacks by the kind of vitriol they spout. People, new Nazi leaders, such as the aforementioned Michael Kiihnen and also Bela Althans, have been very active behind what used to be called the Iron Curtain not only in areas of East Germany, but also in parts of Poland, and what used to be the Soviet Union, areas like the Ukraine, and they have been promoting this German-Russian, or perhaps in some cases this German-Ukra- nian geopolitical alliance that we've discussed periodically throughout the interview at the same time the German army is switching to a potential offensive status, it's the German Defense Minister, Klaus Naumann, is mak- ing some very interesting statements about rolling back the social ethic to pre-1 status, and the German heavy industry and German foreign policy are working along parallel lines by buying up strategic heavy industry, heavy communications, media, and other aspects of the Eastern European economy, which gives them tremendous political leverage. I realize that that's a tall order in just a few more minutes, but I wonder if you could touch on that for us. Well, you know Germany is a country very much in play now, and scholars, aca- demics, journalists seem to be of two-minds about Germany. Then there's sort-of the pessimists who say "No, No, they're just waiting for the Fourth Reich to emerge. I think that when you look at the Ger- man military, and what happens after unifi- cation, things changed, and there was a very explicit policy shift, whereas Germany was a pacifist-oriented country because of the lega- cy of the Third Reich, now it shifted under the command of General Klaus Naumann so as to be more offense-oriented, and not only that, but to find ideologically and spiritually, if you will, some kind of common ground with their military forefathers, and this in Germany, this is all part of the attempt to be like a "normal" country. Germany has to be normal again; normal countries relate to past generations in their military in a positive way, and Germany has to find a way to do that too. They go on so much trying to be normal, trying to be normal, and that's not normal, to be trying to be normal. So there's something strange going on here. As in other sectors of West German society, the military itself was never really denazified, there was a carry-over in a very significant way; but you have to also keep in mind that after reunifica- tion, the actual number of people in the mil- itary, even though the Western military ab- sorbed the East German, was actually cut, it's still the biggest military in Europe, but there's some very disturbing signs, because of what happened in Croatia, of involvement in at least some "peace-keeping" chores or involve- ment of German soldiers. But this is a break- through, not only a psychological threshold is being crossed, but German soldiers are again active in zones of combat, but a very significant political Europe threshold crossed, and what this portends for the future no one really knows for sure. They're not saying this like a Hitlerian military adventure, but a foreign policy that's much more oriented to- ward the East, and I wouldn't be surprised if that happens, it's what some people expect, that it's almost inevitable that it will happen in Germany. And when Schauble goes around talking about stuff like that, he's been chosen as the heir-apparent by Kohl, and if he gets in, I think it's going to be a very sober experience for a lot of people around the world. Marty, we've only got about two minutes left, perhaps a little bit less. Something I'd like to get into at greater length in a future inter- view, and one of the vitally important points you make in your book, and that is the main- streaming of what had been relatively mar- ginalized political views, and Fascist views at that. We were talking about anti-immigrant sentiment and policy exploited by and exe- cuted by Helmut Kohl in Germany, in paral- lel with the ideas advanced by so-called neo- Nazi elements. Anti-immigrant status: Yes, it's certainly nothing unique to Ger- many, the kind of political dynamic where the mainstream interacts with the extreme Right in ways that can give some strength to the extreme Right; that's not just unique to Germany..

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